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Has to be some sort of hype building ploy? Fury is as thick as they come but even he can't honestly think that he is worth that much?!

Love or hate Haye - the guy is a two weight title holder and a unified and some would say undisputed champion at cruiserweight.

Tyson Fury is a .... (somebody fill the blanks in for me please, other than being a tall, mouthy pikey I am failing to see what he has done?)
Since Haye embarrased himself against Klitschko, Fury has done alot more than Haye who has fought one solitary fight against someone Tyson fought when they were undefeated.

Tyson has fought 6 times since Haye fell over against Wladamir and he has beaten 2 top ten heavies. Fury has done a hell of alot more than Haye. Haye is now i sgnificant on the world scene. Some naive people are still calling hs name as the man to beat the Klitschkos. Do you all forget how crap he was when given his chance? His boat has sailed amd hes not a big draw. His fight against Char was called off because of poor ticket sales. Fury is drawing a crowd against anyone and all over the media when he fights.
Dunno, last I saw of Fury all I remember is fury getting dropped hard by a cruiserweight just looking for a pay day.

I didn't know we had to discount all of an athlete's prior achievements and performances after a bad one, cheers for clearing that up.

You seem to let a fighter's personality skewer your view of things, you revently did it with Carl Froch because you think he's a dick and you're doing it with David Haye, because you think he's a dick too.

Whether he's a dick or not doesn't change the fact that he is on another level to Fury.
I think Froch is a dick but its undeniable hes fought better names than Haye has. Haye gets my goat because he talks a good game but hasnt really done a great deal. Hes had 27 or 28 fights but been a pro for 11 years. The fights he had before Wlad, even including the cruiser fights, people in here have already pointed out the best, most dangerous fighter he has beaten is Valuev... Who most felt lost to 47 year old Holyfield

There have been plenty of opportunities for Haye to fight genuine contenders to deserve a shot at the title, like Adamek, Arreola, Johnson, Thomson, Solis etc. He has and is constantly is trying the easiest route to a big title shot and its a business and I cant blame him for that but its the attitude that he has done something special along the way that irritates me. Yeah Fury can be dopey and a helmet but he is fighting consistantly and trying to fight ranked fighters. Even Cunningham admitted in the lead up that he was the only fighter who wanted Fury because everyone else doesnt want to face his size and his awkwardness.

He isnt going down the Harrison route like Haye and Price. He fought Chisora when Chisora mattered, even Wlad wanted Chisora as an opponent back then but he pulled out and Fury offered him a fight.

Fury makes me laugh with his ridiculousness, Haye sounds similar but there is a constant undertone of arrogance with Haye, whereas Fury will go on the internet for the whole world to see and take the piss out of himself and his traveler roots wanting to buy caravans and dogs and how its a shame, hes a fat, out of shape, chinny, light punching fighter etc.