But you said that getting off the floor to beat a cruiserweight is something Haye couldn't do. But he did. Just not the one you were talking about. Your way of debating is very odd.
Also, Carl Thompson was a fucking good fighter and losing to him in your 11th fight, by being outlasted, is not really very shameful. Haye had to learn from that that he needed a plan B if he couldn't just blast a guy out.
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I dont know what people are talking about on this thread. It is not going to be a good exiting fight at all. Its prob gonna be on Box Office which is a joke. I just hope they get a decent undercard going.
Hold on!
A few people, el kabong was one of, said that Adamek was in the top 5 heavies..
Cunningham had just been robbed against him in his previous fight, is only 36 to Thmpsons 40! Was a genuine world champ, knocked out Marco Huck which Povetkin couldnt do and he had never been stopped!
Thompson had retired and been knocked out 5 times in his 6 losses. Haye couldnt even drop him but ex middle weight Eubank did 6 years before when Thmpson was fresher and had taken less of a beating.
Cunningham was a dangerous fight for any contender coming up. Thompsson was supposed to be a walk over and he should have been.
So you are concluding that David Haye isn't bigger better and more experienced than when he fought Carl Thompson ?
Or what is your point ?
Im not trying to beat you down im just confused at your logic.
I understand you like Fury which is fine , but im not the only one who thinks you are blinded by this fact.
My logic is that as bad as Haye looked in his fights with Mock and Thompson he managed to go on to win a world title.
Fury has shown he has more fight in him up to this point. Hes had those gut checks and come through them well. Its a more promising start to a career than Haye had. Dont write afury off because he has looked vulnerable. All hes done is been learning and he has not only improved fight by fight, hes improved during fights, turning fights around to totally dominate the opponent.
Its a risky opponent for Fury but one that needs to be beaten to forge an even better challenger to beat a Klitschko and I am not the only person who thinks that Furys will to win will be too much for Haye, especially at this point in his career.
In fact, I can see Haye now, after being bullied around, staying on his stool between rounds and screaming "IM A CELEBRITY, HET ME OUT OF HERE!"
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So basically all Fury can brag about is getting off the floor and roughing up a smaller, older man and stopping him by ilegally using his elbow?
For once you're 100% right - Haye can't make the same claim. I'm sure he'll settle for being the unified cruiserweight champion of the world and holding the WBA heavyweight title instead.
You keep bringing up Thompson, by comparing the inexperienced Haye to the current Fury all you're basically saying is that Tyson Fury is on the same level that David Haye was EIGHT years ago...
And again (twice! :0) you're 100% right, the David Haye that punched himself out and got dropped by an old cruiserweight would get beaten by the current version of David Haye in 4 rounds... The Tyson Fury that got dropped hard by an old cruiserweight and had to pull every dirty trick that he could to get a sketchy stoppage would ALSO get stopped by the current version of Haye in 4 rounds.
The problem for you is that the Tyson Fury that got shown up by the older, smaller guy IS the current version. :-/
If it helps your fantasy, then by all means keep kidding yourself that Fury is fighting the Cruiserweight novice from 8 years ago.![]()
Yes Fury is shameful , he fighting his second over 30 Blown up cruiser , not the way to prepare yourself for the 18 stone Wlad. TUT TUT shame on your Fury you bully.![]()
I am absolutely astonished that people who I used to regard as knowledgable boxing fans cannot see that this is going to be an early haye blow out of fury. Fury is far too slow for haye and will be smacked into next week as soon as he tries taking the fight to haye. Fury will not be standing by the end of the 4th.
Cunningham was still very relevant and in the heavyweight division. He should have got the decision afainst Adamek who el kabong believes to currently be in the top 5.
The thompson that Haye lost to was 40, had 6 losses, been knocked out 5 times, been dropped in almost every fight and had retired.
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