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is everyone who has lost an unbeaten record a hype job?

at what point does someone stop being a hype job, as in how high up the ladder does someone have to go before a loss is acceptable

for example canelo just lost to mayweather and many times i have read on here that he is a hype job as shown by the defeat

yet he just lost to the best fighter in the world

if you are a popular fighter in the media, are you a hype job if you cant beat mayweather?



The easy, simple way is to look only at the number of wins and losses.
The more correct, more involved way is to look at the quality of opponents in that record.
So are you admitting that Canelo is not a hype job ? The best way to assess a fighters pedigree is to watch them fight with an open mind. If you wear blinkers then you end up seeing exactly what you want to see.


You don't post as much on the main board as you do the others, but this particular topic seems to have sparked your interest. Yeah ok, I'm not gonna pretend I had absolutely no bias while watching the fight. But some things are just plain factual. That Canelo's previously unbeaten record of 42 victories doesn't stack up well against those of other fighters with less wins and some losses? You can argue against that, but you'd be wrong. That the Canelo-Floyd fight was hyped more than just about any recent fight on record? That's pretty clear also, I believe. And that Canelo failed to deliver what many expected, given the gaudy record and the hype? Well.... most observers had it as a shutout, maybe charitably giving Canelo one round.

Maybe if I hadn't expressed myself so fervently about the fight, you'd be singing a different tune yourself. But rather, you wait to see which side you should take, and then take it. No problem.