Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

[Dark Lord Al]

Wlad is better than his brother now but at their best Vitali may have won although he is very robotic he is more sturdy. Wlad is a difficult fighter to beat for any of the greats but I would have him outside of the top ten. Wlad still has a bit more to go.

Any threat and he fights scared.

Against Vitali he'd have tried holding and leaning but against someone his own size who isn't just a punch bag he would wilt.

If Fury fights Wlad next year and wins, does this wipe out any notion of Wlad ever being a top heavy in history?

Lyles logic is all ifs and buts ? however yours isn't ?

He was on about what could have been, what could have happened.

Im asking about something that may well happen in the near future.

If the Haye fight actually goes ahead, Fury wins and becomes the biggest name and money opponent for Wlad. Wlad will be pressured and hug and hold and lose.

Would this instantly wipe out any notion that Wlad is such a great fighter?

Even if you dont agree with anything iv just said. If Fury beats Wlad where does that leave Wlad in all time rankings?

Well we will have to wait and see who wins the Haye fight , then see if the match is made , then evaluate things from there .
I think fury gets KOED by the first puncher he meets.
but we will have to wait .
If a 37 year old Wlad loses tomorrow it doesn't overshadow his reign as champ , he has been a good champ if not the most exciting.