Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

[El Kabong]

Lewis didn't get beaten and battered and thrown around and bullied. He got caught by a huge punch, twice. I'd rather get KOed by those 2 punches that suffer the defeats Wlad did.

.....and Wlad is still the best right now, even after those fights. To regroup, recapture his form and dominate the division after that...it takes a lot of determination to do that

No he's not, not until he beats his brother. Vitali beat Sanders and had an easier time against Peter.

To be honest in my opinion Wlad would beat Clay , I just don't see the 15 stone Clay having the power to hurt him.
Sure Wlad would be beaten by a few of the big hitters. But for me Clay was great in his era , but no way he beats everybody in the modern era.

Yet Clay took the shots of the biggest punchers ever and beat them

Vitali took 4 years off while Wladimir dominated and it's Wlad that needs to prove himself? Again, Corrie Sanders is DEAD (R.I.P) so I highly doubt a rematch would be honorable or very difficult at this time you dolt. Wlad beat Sam Peter TWICE.

You keep clinging to your Mike Tyson.....he's not coming back, Teddy Atlas ain't coming back, and neither is Kevin Rooney. That style doesn't work against guys who control pace and distance and the shelf life of a guy who fights like that....maybe 2-3 peak years 5-7 at MOST. Tyson had what 4 years at his absolute peak?

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Lewis didn't get beaten and battered and thrown around and bullied. He got caught by a huge punch, twice. I'd rather get KOed by those 2 punches that suffer the defeats Wlad did.

.....and Wlad is still the best right now, even after those fights. To regroup, recapture his form and dominate the division after that...it takes a lot of determination to do that

No he's not, not until he beats his brother. Vitali beat Sanders and had an easier time against Peter.

To be honest in my opinion Wlad would beat Clay , I just don't see the 15 stone Clay having the power to hurt him.
Sure Wlad would be beaten by a few of the big hitters. But for me Clay was great in his era , but no way he beats everybody in the modern era.

Yet Clay took the shots of the biggest punchers ever and beat them

Vitali took 4 years off while Wladimir dominated and it's Wlad that needs to prove himself? Again, Corrie Sanders is DEAD (R.I.P) so I highly doubt a rematch would be honorable or very difficult at this time you dolt. Wlad beat Sam Peter TWICE.

You keep clinging to your Mike Tyson.....he's not coming back, Teddy Atlas ain't coming back, and neither is Kevin Rooney. That style doesn't work against guys who control pace and distance and the shelf life of a guy who fights like that....maybe 2-3 peak years 5-7 at MOST. Tyson had what 4 years at his absolute peak?

Wlad could have rematched Sanders imediately but didnt. He had 5 years to offer him a rematch and get the win over him but didnt

Wlad beat Sam Peter but Vitali did it easier, battered him

What has anything I said got to do with Mike Tyson