Garcia/Roach camp blowout.

[imp]

Roach might not have been a great pro fighter but he knows the game inside and out. He may have parkinsons but part of him wanted to throw it down with ariza and they should have let him.

This whole incident has made me want to see this fight even more and im sure alot more people would like to see this.

Rios did the right thing by staying out of this but he had no option as he couldnt screw up the biggest payday of his life plus he was critical of roach illness in the past with his pathetic mocking.

I had roach back all the way until he had to mention "mexican". Why does someone do that? In the heat of rage do your true feelings come out?!

Then again, alex ariza with all his stuttering and dissing is just something you dont do and he is a disgrace.

Another thing, everyone is quick to mention assault in america for anything! Does everyone sue for anything over there?!

There is no way that pacman can loose this fight!..

[imp]

I'm missing the Race Card... They are Mexican, and Elli is a Jew... Rios camp knows poking at the Parkinsons is the best attack, so cussing and calling names was a normal response.

Big deal...

The kick to the chest is what ended it for me. Ariza you lose!

Kick to chest? Who kicked who?

[cnote111]

I'm missing the Race Card... They are Mexican, and Elli is a Jew... Rios camp knows poking at the Parkinsons is the best attack, so cussing and calling names was a normal response.

Big deal...

The kick to the chest is what ended it for me. Ariza you lose!

Kick to chest? Who kicked who?

Ariza kicked Roach to the chest.

[imp]

I'm missing the Race Card... They are Mexican, and Elli is a Jew... Rios camp knows poking at the Parkinsons is the best attack, so cussing and calling names was a normal response.

Big deal...

The kick to the chest is what ended it for me. Ariza you lose!

Kick to chest? Who kicked who?

Ariza kicked Roach to the chest.

Damn, missed that bit!

What a coward.

[zhubin]

I know it's not cool to make fun of someone's condition like that...but Roach cannot always get pass for being an asshole because of Parkinson's. Pretty pathetic behavior from both camps.

[jehoshaphat]

I don't know if this was staged but I can see Arum setting up a rife and getting more than he bargained for. Garcia said Arum told them that they have to do interviews for 15 to 20 minutes so their gym time would run over. Garcia's camp only gets the gym from 9 to 11. Roach's camp gets it from 11 to 4 so that is unfair to start. After the scuff the clock showed 11:10. I guess Roach didn't know about the interviews and running over time and Pac wasn't even there so Roach's approach was quite harsh. He went over to Garcia in the middle of that interview and said to Garcia "Your time is up" and "Get the f&#k out of here you piece of sh#t." By time Pac gets there and he wraps his hands the Garcia camp is out of there. Ariza is the worst to me because this is really between the trainers but Roach is far from innocent and I think people are giving him a pass because of his condition. Some people have their bias and will root for and against their predetermined guy(s) so they will spin it and see it how they want it to be. Anybody neutral or willing to set their bias aside will see this incident for what its worth and not all of a sudden cling to other stuff. Controversy sells and Arum gave us a good scoop of it right here. This will in fact bolster the PPV...which as a boxing fan I can appreciate but the road is low class.

[Spicoli]

When I heard about it I thought it was staged but if they'd staged it they would have left the racist stuff out of it. That actually happened. Arum and Top Rank have downplayed it as much as they could, they're not looking to make publicity out of it. Roach will get his own back anyway, Rios is going to take all the beating he can handle.

The one that would have me thinking it was staged is no one in there right mind would have the camps exiting and entering at the exact same time. That and the biggest point being made about 'racial'. I've never once in my life heard someone ...in the heat of anger and moment mind you...drop someone's Nationality as a "racial slur". I mean if someone looks at me and calls me a 'damn American' I don't find it racial or with hatred...save for Miles In which case it would follow "you fat fascist American" I suppose?! I dunno, in hindsight the thing did have a bit of a backstage WWE promo to it. Hey it beats Adrien Broner filming himself taking a shit in a Popeyes chicken bathroom in order to get publicity.

[jehoshaphat]

When I heard about it I thought it was staged but if they'd staged it they would have left the racist stuff out of it. That actually happened. Arum and Top Rank have downplayed it as much as they could, they're not looking to make publicity out of it. Roach will get his own back anyway, Rios is going to take all the beating he can handle.

The one that would have me thinking it was staged is no one in there right mind would have the camps exiting and entering at the exact same time. That and the biggest point being made about 'racial'. I've never once in my life heard someone ...in the heat of anger and moment mind you...drop someone's Nationality as a "racial slur". I mean if someone looks at me and calls me a 'damn American' I don't find it racial or with hatred...save for Miles In which case it would follow "you fat fascist American" I suppose?! I dunno, in hindsight the thing did have a bit of a backstage WWE promo to it. Hey it beats Adrien Broner filming himself taking a shit in a Popeyes chicken bathroom in order to get publicity.

Thats a good point. Its a guarantee they will cross paths. I personally can get on board if it was staged but keep the racial and disability content out of it. Maybe Arum arranges this time slot in hopes of controversy and Roach's camp and Garcia's camp were unwitting pawns.

[Master]

Do not blame Arum for everything, next they will say he shot John F Kennedy.

[jehoshaphat]

Do not blame Arum for everything, next they will say he shot John F Kennedy.

Maybe I am being too harsh on Arum. He is such an easy target, my bad. I'm actually giving him credit because it is brilliant. He wouldn't know that racial and disability mocking would come of this. But I'm just trying to make sense of why did he not tell Roach that Garcia's time will run over.

[jehoshaphat]

Fuck ariza's punkass and that short chubby mexican hanger on. Getting crazy on somebody with parkinsons disease and shit smh, thats what pussies do. Those two punks should be beaten with baseball bats. Fuck rios too. He mocked roach too long time ago and tried to play it off. This motherfucker talks like he's in middle school sounding dumb as fuck. Without boxing, this dumbass would be selling tacos out of cater trucks.

War Pacman!!!

The Rios thing was years ago. He kept it real professional here. Whats your take on Roach calling dude a stupid Mexican and telling security to get that f*&^ing Jew out of here?

May have been years ago but that doesn't change the fact that it was one of the lowest thing a person can do. That was some bush league shit straight up.

I dont think Roach would have made a racist remark for no reason. Something had to trigger him.. It was random because he just walked up outa nowhere and called Garcia a piece of shit. Im convinced that something else happened before the camera started rolling or some other shit leading up to that day..

Ariza though man. Can you believe this fuckin guy. He's like a pussy ass weasel..

I agree with you on Ariza the dude is just not a class act. He makes more noise than all other S & C coaches combined. But on camera afterwards Roach admits that before he came over to Garcia he was emotional having just got off the phone with his girlfriend.

[imp]

Arum is a multi billionaire.

Let me say that again.

A multi billionaire. A billion is a thousand million.

Bob knew what he was doing but as someone mentioned freddie doesnt get a free pass just cause he got parkinsons.

[bigstinkybug]

I know it's not cool to make fun of someone's condition like that...but Roach cannot always get pass for being an asshole because of Parkinson's. Pretty pathetic behavior from both camps.

*well said...

[IamInuit]

I know it's not cool to make fun of someone's condition like that...but Roach cannot always get pass for being an asshole because of Parkinson's. Pretty pathetic behavior from both camps.

Yeah I have to agree with that also. Its only fair. Knowing his own history with Ariza, Roach could have sent someone else to claim the gym time but the fact remains that the whole Garcia crew appeared to be claiming the spot and then they overreacted almost to a gang mentality. Fact still remains that they threatened to hurt a man where a punch could end his life when they could have just left it at "fuck off" and ignored him.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Tinderbox by Arum.