FROCH V GROVES - Full Fight

[smashup]

Where was the standing 8 count...?

Just gets worse that stoppage everytime you watch it

Because there isnt such a thing. If you dont go down then its either a stoppage or not as far as I am aware. (doesnt change the fact the ref intervened too soon)

Not true...plenty of fights where one guy might buckle a bit or wobble back an lean on the ropes and get a standing 8 count.

Seriously check the rules, I do not think this was an option for the referee in this fight.

I dont need to check the rules, maybe you should watch this around 1.30 , the guys buckled , wobbled , all over the ropes but doesnt go down and gets a standing 8 then goes on to win the fight

Like i said ive seen the same in shitloads of fights over the years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-1Cr8sVay4

[Solzier71]

Where was the standing 8 count...?

Just gets worse that stoppage everytime you watch it

Because there isnt such a thing. If you dont go down then its either a stoppage or not as far as I am aware. (doesnt change the fact the ref intervened too soon)

Not true...plenty of fights where one guy might buckle a bit or wobble back an lean on the ropes and get a standing 8 count.

Seriously check the rules, I do not think this was an option for the referee in this fight.

I dont need to check the rules, maybe you should watch this around 1.30 , the guys buckled , wobbled , all over the ropes but doesnt go down and gets a standing 8 then goes on to win the fight

Like i said ive seen the same in shitloads of fights over the years

Froch is IBF and WBA Champion.

See rules below:

Boxing Regulations
Unified Championship Rules
· No standing 8 count
· No 3 Knockdown rule
· Fighter cannot be saved by the bell in any round
· 10 point must system is in effect
· Only the referee can stop the fight
· Fight stopped due to accidental head butt:
· Technical Draw up to and including the fourth round
· Goes to the scorecard after the fourth round
Boxing Organizations Rules
WBA
· No standing 8 count
· 3 Knockdown rule is in effect
· Fighter can be saved by the bell in the last round only
· 10 point must system is in effect
· Only the referee can stop the fight
· 3 judges score
· Accidental head butt:
· Technical Draw up to the end of the fourth round
· Goes to the scorecard after the fourth round
WBC
· No standing 8 count
· No 3 Knockdown rule
· Fighter can be saved by the bell in the last round only
· 10 point must system is in effect
· Only the referee can stop the fight
· 3 judges score
· Accidental head butt:
· Technical Draw up to the end of the fourth round
· Goes to the scorecard after the fourth round
IBF
· No standing 8 count
· No 3 Knockdown rule
· 10 point must system is in effect
· Only the referee can stop the fight
· Cannot be saved by the bell in any round
· Accidental head butt:
· No Decision up to and including the fifth round
· Goes to the scorecard after the fifth round
WBO
· No standing 8 count
· 3 Knockdown rule is in effect
· Fighter can be saved by the bell in the last round only
· 10 point must system is in effect
· Only the referee can stop the fight
· 3 judges score
· Accidental head butt:
· Technical Draw up to the end of the third round
· Goes to the scorecard after the third round

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Ever heard of a no-standing-8-count rule?

Never mind. New guy beat me to it.

Good post btw.

[Solzier71]

And as you can see from the video you posted the ref ruled it a knock down as the ropes had held him up. That is not a standing 8 count.

This does not change the fact that the fight was stopped to early, but also rules out completely as far as I am concerned the standing 8 count option. The referee did not have it at his disposal.

[greynotsoold]

it varies by organization. for years- and i don't know if this is still true- all the boxing publications came out against the rule. boxing purists have always opposed the rule- if the guy is too stunned to take a knee, stop the fight. The argument is that is like sentencing a guy to 1000 lashes, then, when, after 623, you realize it is about to kill him, you stop it, let him recover, then lay on the other 377.

[Dark Lord Al]

Lets just have a rematch.

[ryanman]

No standing 8 counts under IBF or WBA. Or WBO and WBC for that matter. But weirdly refs sometimes do it anyway.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Which is worse than not doing it, surely?

[smashup]

No standing 8 counts under IBF or WBA. Or WBO and WBC for that matter. But weirdly refs sometimes do it anyway.

So its not within the law but loads of refs do it anyway?

Confused

[ryanman]

No standing 8 counts under IBF or WBA. Or WBO and WBC for that matter. But weirdly refs sometimes do it anyway.

So its not within the law but loads of refs do it anyway?

Confused

Yeah it is in some rules, but not the 4 main governing bodies. Why refs do it sometimes I don't know.
But you must have heard before nearly every fight - 'ten point must system, no standing 8 counts etc'