Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

[Beanflicker]

I hate to say it but Pac is washed up. Watch his recent fights, hes not the same Pac at all. I could have chalked up the lackluster performance against Bradley to lack of desire but after seeing him in JMM 4 and against Rios, he just doesnt look the same, not even close at that. Desire could be the issue I suppose.

The only hope for Pac to regain desire and come into a fight anywhere near as sharp as he used to be is to give him a fight he wants. This is the only fight he has reason to fight.

In most other circumstances, I say yes, a fighter would need a couple more fights to get back up there. But I think one fight to knock off some ring rust is enough for Pac and is best for him.

His level of fights in the tank is running low. The sooner the better for Pac. Taking another fight or two would only do harm for Pac.

So the logic is give Pac the Mayweather fight because he's washed up and could keel over any second and we don't know how many fights he has left? That if given a huge megafight he MIGHT decide to take it seriously and give us a good fight?

What's the point? As the #1 p4p, Floyd should be made to fight only the top fighters in the sport. Why would we want to see him vs a washed up Pac?

Jeez, way to sell me on the fight

[cambay411]

I hate to say it but Pac is washed up. Watch his recent fights, hes not the same Pac at all. I could have chalked up the lackluster performance against Bradley to lack of desire but after seeing him in JMM 4 and against Rios, he just doesnt look the same, not even close at that. Desire could be the issue I suppose.

The only hope for Pac to regain desire and come into a fight anywhere near as sharp as he used to be is to give him a fight he wants. This is the only fight he has reason to fight.

In most other circumstances, I say yes, a fighter would need a couple more fights to get back up there. But I think one fight to knock off some ring rust is enough for Pac and is best for him.

His level of fights in the tank is running low. The sooner the better for Pac. Taking another fight or two would only do harm for Pac.

So the logic is give Pac the Mayweather fight because he's washed up and could keel over any second and we don't know how many fights he has left? That if given a huge megafight he MIGHT decide to take it seriously and give us a good fight?

What's the point? As the #1 p4p, Floyd should be made to fight only the top fighters in the sport. Why would we want to see him vs a washed up Pac?

Jeez, way to sell me on the fight

There is way more to it than that.

At the rate we are going in boxing, if this blockbuster fight doesnt happen we may never see another blockbuster fight.

This is the fight that can define an era of boxing and regardless of who who washed up I think they should fight at least twice.

Dont get me wrong I definately see where your coming from but this fight needs to happen and the sooner the better for both fighters.

[ruthless rocco]

One blockbuster fight is not going to "save boxing".
It could be argued that its the superfight that ruins boxing. It stifles smaller possibly more exciting fights. It makes fighters and promoters hold out for the big fights and it kills the competitiveness of entire divisions. Fighters and promoters don't want fights where they could be beat because it may cost them that one big super mega blockbuster fight.

[cambay411]

One blockbuster fight is not going to "save boxing".
It could be argued that its the superfight that ruins boxing. It stifles smaller possibly more exciting fights. It makes fighters and promoters hold out for the big fights and it kills the competitiveness of entire divisions. Fighters and promoters don't want fights where they could be beat because it may cost them that one big super mega blockbuster fight.

Good points, tho I dont think this fight could ruin boxing. It could be a disappointment but it wouldnt ruin boxing.

If this blockbuster fight could ruin boxing it could be argued that any blockbuster fight that Floyd fights in could have similar effects because, lets face it, Floyds style doesnt make for crowd pleasing fights.

The faster the fighter is and the more punches a fighter throws, the more Floyd seems to shut down. Take the ODLH fight for example. Floyd is lucky he didnt lose this fight due to punch output alone. Oscar brought it to him the best he could and Floyd showed masterful defense yes, but Floyd is the only fighter ive ever seen win fights on defense alone. And its not crowd pleasing.

[Master]

Who are we kidding if the fight is signed we would all watch.

[Beanflicker]

You don't want people making excuses? Good luck with that.

There are plenty of muppets, just on this small nerds forum alone, that rip apart Floyd, Pac and every other great fighter that's ever lived on a daily basis. If they fought when they should have, a few years ago, there would currently be a million excuse threads explaining why the loser lost.

Oh, there'll be excuses no matter what happens. There would have been excuses made even if PBF beat Pac in 2010. There are people on this very board who don't think PBF is in the top 30 of all time, so nothing really surprises me when it comes to the Floyd hate.

It's all about getting rid of the "plausible deniability." If Pac lost to Floyd tomorrow, you could plausibly say that Pac is washed up, because beating Rios really didn't prove anything.

If Pac whips Bradley's ass and then loses to Floyd and you say it's because he's washed up, you're just talking shit.

[cambay411]

You don't want people making excuses? Good luck with that.

There are plenty of muppets, just on this small nerds forum alone, that rip apart Floyd, Pac and every other great fighter that's ever lived on a daily basis. If they fought when they should have, a few years ago, there would currently be a million excuse threads explaining why the loser lost.

Oh, there'll be excuses no matter what happens. There would have been excuses made even if PBF beat Pac in 2010. There are people on this very board who don't think PBF is in the top 30 of all time, so nothing really surprises me when it comes to the Floyd hate.

It's all about getting rid of the "plausible deniability." If Pac lost to Floyd tomorrow, you could plausibly say that Pac is washed up, because beating Rios really didn't prove anything.

If Pac whips Bradley's ass and then loses to Floyd and you say it's because he's washed up, you're just talking shit.

Every Floyd hater and Pac fan would say Pac is washed up if he loses that fight no matter what. And really it wouldnt be just talking shit to say that imo.

Pac already beat Bradley pretty convencingly and looked pretty lackluster in doing so. If Pac and Floyd fought right after that and Pac lost people would definately let it be known how off he looked against Bradley.

Sure if Pac fought Bradley again and smashed him it could make the fight a tad more interesting for the hardcore fans but its not a guarentee Pac smashes him. Its likely the fight plays out similar to the first fight and that would leave us in basically the same spot we already in.

Honeslty imo, the fight is more interesting if its Pac's very next fight. I dont think Pac can afford to take any more fights out of his tank.

Pac is not going to get any better, hes only getting older, slower, losing more desire with each fight and etc. He already had a fight to knock the rust off. Considering he doesnt take another lay off, every fight from here on out just takes more out of the tank.