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    Default Re: Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

    One blockbuster fight is not going to "save boxing".
    It could be argued that its the superfight that ruins boxing. It stifles smaller possibly more exciting fights. It makes fighters and promoters hold out for the big fights and it kills the competitiveness of entire divisions. Fighters and promoters don't want fights where they could be beat because it may cost them that one big super mega blockbuster fight.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    One blockbuster fight is not going to "save boxing".
    It could be argued that its the superfight that ruins boxing. It stifles smaller possibly more exciting fights. It makes fighters and promoters hold out for the big fights and it kills the competitiveness of entire divisions. Fighters and promoters don't want fights where they could be beat because it may cost them that one big super mega blockbuster fight.



    Good points, tho I dont think this fight could ruin boxing. It could be a disappointment but it wouldnt ruin boxing.

    If this blockbuster fight could ruin boxing it could be argued that any blockbuster fight that Floyd fights in could have similar effects because, lets face it, Floyds style doesnt make for crowd pleasing fights.

    The faster the fighter is and the more punches a fighter throws, the more Floyd seems to shut down. Take the ODLH fight for example. Floyd is lucky he didnt lose this fight due to punch output alone. Oscar brought it to him the best he could and Floyd showed masterful defense yes, but Floyd is the only fighter ive ever seen win fights on defense alone. And its not crowd pleasing.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

    Who are we kidding if the fight is signed we would all watch.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    You don't want people making excuses? Good luck with that.

    There are plenty of muppets, just on this small nerds forum alone, that rip apart Floyd, Pac and every other great fighter that's ever lived on a daily basis. If they fought when they should have, a few years ago, there would currently be a million excuse threads explaining why the loser lost.
    Oh, there'll be excuses no matter what happens. There would have been excuses made even if PBF beat Pac in 2010. There are people on this very board who don't think PBF is in the top 30 of all time, so nothing really surprises me when it comes to the Floyd hate.

    It's all about getting rid of the "plausible deniability." If Pac lost to Floyd tomorrow, you could plausibly say that Pac is washed up, because beating Rios really didn't prove anything.

    If Pac whips Bradley's ass and then loses to Floyd and you say it's because he's washed up, you're just talking shit.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    You don't want people making excuses? Good luck with that.

    There are plenty of muppets, just on this small nerds forum alone, that rip apart Floyd, Pac and every other great fighter that's ever lived on a daily basis. If they fought when they should have, a few years ago, there would currently be a million excuse threads explaining why the loser lost.
    Oh, there'll be excuses no matter what happens. There would have been excuses made even if PBF beat Pac in 2010. There are people on this very board who don't think PBF is in the top 30 of all time, so nothing really surprises me when it comes to the Floyd hate.

    It's all about getting rid of the "plausible deniability." If Pac lost to Floyd tomorrow, you could plausibly say that Pac is washed up, because beating Rios really didn't prove anything.

    If Pac whips Bradley's ass and then loses to Floyd and you say it's because he's washed up, you're just talking shit.



    Every Floyd hater and Pac fan would say Pac is washed up if he loses that fight no matter what. And really it wouldnt be just talking shit to say that imo.

    Pac already beat Bradley pretty convencingly and looked pretty lackluster in doing so. If Pac and Floyd fought right after that and Pac lost people would definately let it be known how off he looked against Bradley.

    Sure if Pac fought Bradley again and smashed him it could make the fight a tad more interesting for the hardcore fans but its not a guarentee Pac smashes him. Its likely the fight plays out similar to the first fight and that would leave us in basically the same spot we already in.

    Honeslty imo, the fight is more interesting if its Pac's very next fight. I dont think Pac can afford to take any more fights out of his tank.

    Pac is not going to get any better, hes only getting older, slower, losing more desire with each fight and etc. He already had a fight to knock the rust off. Considering he doesnt take another lay off, every fight from here on out just takes more out of the tank.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

    Pacquiao is a bit past his prime, but he clearly ain't "all washed-up", you lil $#!t-snap you!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

    If this fight happens it's thanks to the IRS, They deserve all the credit for it happening. Without them it doesn't happen. Saying you want the fight and actually wantng the fight are 2 different things. Pac has never wanted the Floyd fight. Him claiming he did was just that. Him claiming it. There was no truth behind. If he really wanted the fight he would of took the blood tests the first time. Or took the career high 40 million the second time. But he didn't. Cuz he didn't want it than. Does he want it now? No. But he wants the paycheck that comes with it. He was able to say no before cuz he was eating lobster and German Shepherds every day. Now that he and Bobby gotta combined there money just to get a combo from McDonalds he can't afford to say no

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    Default Re: Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

    Quote Originally Posted by bradlee180 View Post
    Pacquiao is a bit past his prime, but he clearly ain't "all washed-up", you lil $#!t-snap you!


    Thats exactly my point. And hes not going to get better. Its hard to say how many fights he has left in him until he is washed up.

    He may be washed up honestly tho. When a fighter with his style slows down the least bit they are gonna start taking hard punches from counters, ie JMM. Pacs movement, footwork and speed are what got him out of the way of those punches. Pressure fighters are usually done as soon as they leave their prime for these reasons. There style is more taxing than any other.

    With that being said, I still think he might have enough to beat Floyd. JMM is a worse match up for Pac imo. JMM sits down on his punches and will throw 3-4 sharp punches at a time. Floyd wont open up like that against Pac.

    There is still no reason this fight shouldnt happen.

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