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    Default Re: Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

    You could be right about Louis, I thought it was 25 but I am not certain.

    Wlad's consecutive streak is 17 so by that figure he needs 7 or 8 more wins respectively to make the record which at 2 fights a year means at most 4 years, more likely only 3.

    So even by using the lowest fight rate, and the statistic with the largest void to overcome, we should still not have to put up with the old "jab and grab" for anywhere near another 10 years LOL.

    It'd be a real test if Wladimir could really remain unbeaten until 48 years old anyway facing his mandatories. Then he'd be breaking Foreman's record too. I think to have any real shot at that he would have to chub up significantly to 260lbs and be prepared to take some more punishment as his speed and reflexes decline into advanced age, assuming his chin can be padded enough but I kinda doubt it at top level.
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    Default Re: Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

    Wlad hasn't lost in 10 years.... 19 wins since his loss to Brewster. 22 overall title defenses, 19 consecutively.


    Most consecutive successful defenses

    Division Name Title Years Defenses

    Heavyweight: Joe Louis World (1937-49) 25
    Cruiserweight: Anaclet Wamba WBC Title (1991-94) 7
    Light Heavyweight: Bob Foster World (1968-74) 14
    Super Middleweight: Nigel Benn WBC Title (1992-95) 9
    Middleweight: Carlos Monzon World (1970-77) 14
    Junior Middleweight: Gianfranco Rosi IBF (1989-94) 11
    Welterweight: Henry Armstrong World (1938-40) 19
    Junior Welterweight: Julio Cesar Chavez WBC/IBF (1989-94) 12
    Lightweight: Roberto Duran World (1972-79) 12
    Junior Lightweight: Brian Mitchell IBF/WBA (1986-91) 12
    Featherweight: Eusebio Pedroza WBA (1978-85) 19
    Jr. Featherweight: Wilfredo Gomez WBC (1977-83) 17
    Bantamweight: Orlando Canizales IBF (1988-94) 16
    Junior Bantamweight: Khaosai Galaxy WBA (1984-91) 19
    Flyweight: Miguel Canto WBC (1975-79) 14
    Junior Flyweight: Myung Woo Yuh WBA (1985-91) 17
    Strawweight: Ricardo Lopez WBC (1990-99) 21
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    Default Re: Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

    I think the consecutive streak is not at all important anyway, it's the total defences that counts, the fact you dropped the ball but was able to pick it up again and continue should not detract from what you achieved previously.

    So for anybody who is at all, objective Wladimir only has to win 3 more fights.

    But since the OTNB community will stop at nothing to cherry pick every useless statistic they can to salvage their hero from the distant past and down-tread the bastard Commie (lol), I think Wladimir should score the rest of the victories before he retires anyway just to silence any argument.
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    Default Re: Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    I think the consecutive streak is not at all important anyway, it's the total defences that counts, the fact you dropped the ball but was able to pick it up again and continue should not detract from what you achieved previously.

    So for anybody who is at all, objective Wladimir only has to win 3 more fights.

    But since the OTNB community will stop at nothing to cherry pick every useless statistic they can to salvage their hero from the distant past and down-tread the bastard Commie (lol), I think Wladimir should score the rest of the victories before he retires anyway just to silence any argument.
    Being objective means not being factual, in your estimation?
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    Default Re: Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    I think the consecutive streak is not at all important anyway, it's the total defences that counts, the fact you dropped the ball but was able to pick it up again and continue should not detract from what you achieved previously.

    So for anybody who is at all, objective Wladimir only has to win 3 more fights.

    But since the OTNB community will stop at nothing to cherry pick every useless statistic they can to salvage their hero from the distant past and down-tread the bastard Commie (lol), I think Wladimir should score the rest of the victories before he retires anyway just to silence any argument.
    Being objective means not being factual, in your estimation?
    Neither statistic is non-factual, they are both true.

    The total one is meaningful and the consecutive one is not, simple as that.
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    Default Re: Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    I think the consecutive streak is not at all important anyway, it's the total defences that counts, the fact you dropped the ball but was able to pick it up again and continue should not detract from what you achieved previously.

    So for anybody who is at all, objective Wladimir only has to win 3 more fights.

    But since the OTNB community will stop at nothing to cherry pick every useless statistic they can to salvage their hero from the distant past and down-tread the bastard Commie (lol), I think Wladimir should score the rest of the victories before he retires anyway just to silence any argument.
    Being objective means not being factual, in your estimation?
    Neither statistic is non-factual, they are both true.

    The total one is meaningful and the consecutive one is not, simple as that.
    Totally your opinion. And you know what they say about opinions?

    At least all Louis had to fight was bums. Wlad has legitimate contenders he refuses to fight, and instead fights the likes or Mormeck, Leapai and Pianetta.

    So, I guess Wlad feeds on bums until you guys are satisfied... which is a little sick, if you ask me.
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    Default Re: Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    I think the consecutive streak is not at all important anyway, it's the total defences that counts, the fact you dropped the ball but was able to pick it up again and continue should not detract from what you achieved previously.

    So for anybody who is at all, objective Wladimir only has to win 3 more fights.

    But since the OTNB community will stop at nothing to cherry pick every useless statistic they can to salvage their hero from the distant past and down-tread the bastard Commie (lol), I think Wladimir should score the rest of the victories before he retires anyway just to silence any argument.
    Being objective means not being factual, in your estimation?
    Neither statistic is non-factual, they are both true.

    The total one is meaningful and the consecutive one is not, simple as that.
    Totally your opinion. And you know what they say about opinions?

    At least all Louis had to fight was bums. Wlad has legitimate contenders he refuses to fight, and instead fights the likes or Mormeck, Leapai and Pianetta.

    So, I guess Wlad feeds on bums until you guys are satisfied... which is a little sick, if you ask me.
    An opinion that makes common sense you mean

    And those opponents were bad opponents that's true but then there have been good opponents too.

    Besides, you cannot refer to them as "bums" exactly. Mormeck was a CW champion and Pianeta was big and undefeated.

    What was the records like of Louis' opponents again
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