Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
Reid was lucky to be champ, Groves could have beaten Nardiello and I doubt Reid would have beaten Froch.
Lucky?

He should ave got the decisions over the only two super middle weight champs to retire undefeated. Thats not luck, thats class.

So far Groves hasnt acheived half as much.
Groves career is not over and even if he does not acheive as much as Reid at the end of his career will be down to luck than talent. If you want me to disect Reids career for you then I will but really it is clear to see that he was not really a world class fighter just fortunate.