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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What Americans can draw as big a crowd as Calzaghe, Hatton and Froch?
    I could give you a list as long as my arm, but that's not what this thread is supposed to be about, right?

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Only a few fighters ever achieve star status and by that you could define as having mainstream mass appeal and PPV sales, even Americans. Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage. They are few and far between.
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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.
    You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
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    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.
    You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.
    I like Britain just fine - my grandmother was born in Hull. But as far as producing quality, world class, ATG fighters... you lot are lacking. That's what's up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
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    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.
    You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.
    I like Britain just fine - my grandmother was born in Hull. But as far as producing quality, world class, ATG fighters... you lot are lacking. That's what's up.
    Canada though?
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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
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    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.
    You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.
    I like Britain just fine - my grandmother was born in Hull. But as far as producing quality, world class, ATG fighters... you lot are lacking. That's what's up.
    Canada though?
    Well hell, I never claimed Canada was a hot bed of boxing talent either (although the fact remains that the greatest "British fighter" of all time learned to box in Canada, but that's a whole other issue).

    Difference is, Canada generally doesn't care about boxing. We like hockey.

    The Brits LOVE boxing, yet they produce so few real quality fighters.

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
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    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.
    Naz had a six-fight $12 million deal with HBO, his American debut with Kevin Kelley, packing out Madison Square Garden, broke the all-time gate record for a featherweight fight, he ended his USA career at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on PPV against a fighter that had never previously been on PPV. It did 310,000 buys.

    Barrera-Morales II - 290,000 buys.
    Barrera-Morales III - 300,000 buys.
    Barrera-Marquez - 225,000 buys.

    Even with the popularity Barrera got from beating Naz, and facing genuine great American based Mexican fighters, the PPV numbers still came up short of the Naz fight. Naz was the A-side.

    Naz = US "star." Fact.
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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Didn't the thread say European champion ?
    That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
    For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
    See my point ?

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Didn't the thread say European champion ?
    That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
    For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
    See my point ?
    Yeah, just took it as it was meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Didn't the thread say European champion ?
    That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
    For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
    See my point ?
    Yeah, just took it as it was meant.
    You are saying you cant read ?

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.
    Mainstream appeal is appearing on chatshows is it not?

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