David Haye discusses next move with Vitali Klitschko over breakfast

[Max Power]

Haye fans live in a dream world where Haye is an active current boxer who goes through with fights

Wake up!

I don't specifically consider myself a Haye fan, more a fan of great boxing.

Haye is not currently an active boxer, until he fights again, nobody can claim that. The claim is that, given his shoulder holds up, if he came back odds are he could still produce.

Haye is now notorious for pulling out of fights, true. Injuries are the usual case as is evidenced. You could say Haye is injury prone. Considering Haye uses weights and is a high agile and athletic fighter, it should come as no surprise.

[Andre]

Haye fans live in a dream world where Haye is an active current boxer who goes through with fights

Wake up!

I don't specifically consider myself a Haye fan, more a fan of great boxing.

If thats true, you need to watch more from the lesser weights and leave this plodding easy to watch grab and shuffle shit to the general public who can only in see in a certain speed.

Not many heavys just go at it hammer and tong like the top lesser weights do, you may get a round or so out of some ,but nothing like the good old days of out to kill and cat mouse boxing that did exist once in the weight.

Its nearly on par with watching golf , cant see the attraction myself.

[Max Power]

Haye fans live in a dream world where Haye is an active current boxer who goes through with fights

Wake up!

I don't specifically consider myself a Haye fan, more a fan of great boxing.

If thats true, you need to watch more from the lesser weights and leave this plodding easy to watch grab and shuffle shit to the general public who can only in see in a certain speed.

Not many heavys just go at it hammer and tong like the top lesser weights do, you may get a round or so out of some ,but nothing like the good old days of out to kill and cat mouse boxing that did exist once in the weight.

Its nearly on par with watching golf , cant see the attraction myself.

Basically you have just admitted that Heavyweight boxing is a more cautious and more defence aware endeavour now and that previous HW division were punch bags mainly.

Harder punches, make for higher tension.

I do like lower weight boxing as well. But nothing quite holds the same suspense as HW boxing. You can almost FEEL the punches, and something dramatic can happen at any moment.

[Andre]

Haye fans live in a dream world where Haye is an active current boxer who goes through with fights

Wake up!

I don't specifically consider myself a Haye fan, more a fan of great boxing.

If thats true, you need to watch more from the lesser weights and leave this plodding easy to watch grab and shuffle shit to the general public who can only in see in a certain speed.

Not many heavys just go at it hammer and tong like the top lesser weights do, you may get a round or so out of some ,but nothing like the good old days of out to kill and cat mouse boxing that did exist once in the weight.

Its nearly on par with watching golf , cant see the attraction myself.

Basically you have just admitted that Heavyweight boxing is a more cautious and more defence aware endeavour now and that previous HW division were punch bags mainly.

Harder punches, make for higher tension.

I do like lower weight boxing as well. But nothing quite holds the same suspense as HW boxing. You can almost FEEL the punches, and something dramatic can happen at any moment.

Its been a long time since it has.

[Max Power]

Its been a long time since it has.

Arreola Stiverne was highly dramatic.

If your referring to Wladmir's fights, well that is because we live in an era where the HW champion is all but invincible.

If you lived in an era without a dominant champion you would call it an "alphabet era" and STILL complain, this time that there were no stand out champion boxers.

[Dark Lord Al]

Question for you guys , how many times has fury fought BOXOFFICE , and was his last fight BOXOFFICE ?

[ross]

Question for you guys , how many times has fury fought BOXOFFICE , and was his last fight BOXOFFICE ?

Fury is yet to fight for a world title.

How many world title fights had Haye had before he was "box office"?

[ryanman]

Question for you guys , how many times has fury fought BOXOFFICE , and was his last fight BOXOFFICE ?

Never and no.