Prime Holyfield vs prime Joe Frazier

[Master]

Joe was Olympic gold medalist that beat all that he could in the division in the late 60's and early 70's. His peak was 1971. Holyfield was inconsistent champion but at his best he could try and outbox Joe. Bert Copper wobbled and hurt Evander and that could happen. It would be a great war.

[brocktonblockbust]

1971 Frazier can only be beat by Foreman. Too much goddam hustle, heart, and too great a chin. Joe got up 6 times from Foreman knockdowns. Holyfield couldnt hurt him.

[Spicoli]

The Frazier who beat Ali would be the lightest heavyweight Holyfield ever fought. I think its a fantastic fight, the combined heart on display immeasurable and all the chaos of throwing forks into a blender . To me Holyfield has the best of both worlds combination punching off the jab and bulling and outmuscling Frazier who could come in squat and square and turn Joes face into a lumpy bumpy mess. No doubt Joe would land that hook(s) but see Holyfield to fast and complete of both hands and feet, turning.

[Max Power]

Joe was Olympic gold medalist that beat all that he could in the division in the late 60's and early 70's. His peak was 1971. Holyfield was inconsistent champion but at his best he could try and outbox Joe. Bert Copper wobbled and hurt Evander and that could happen. It would be a great war.

Yes, Bert Cooper dropped the pre-roid Holyfield but lost by KO anyway.

Cooper, basically a Frazier after many years of roids himself. Nice try!

[Master]

Joe was Olympic gold medalist that beat all that he could in the division in the late 60's and early 70's. His peak was 1971. Holyfield was inconsistent champion but at his best he could try and outbox Joe. Bert Copper wobbled and hurt Evander and that could happen. It would be a great war.

Yes, Bert Cooper dropped the pre-roid Holyfield but lost by KO anyway.

Cooper, basically a Frazier after many years of roids himself. Nice try!

I was not trying anything just making a comment

[Max Power]

Joe Frazier would be wasted, most of the time in the first round, by virtually any fighter from the 90's onwards. He could not handle a hard punch.

Joe Frazier was about as glassed jawed as they come. The reason Foreman took 6 times to finish him was because Foreman was a push puncher and an arm puncher, not a concussive hitter. He never really clocked a decent opponent cold with 1 punch.

Frazier ducked all hard punchers of his era. He had to fight Foreman because it was his mandatory.

Holyfield beat fucking Mike Tyson and even knocked him out!

The fact that a chinny, featherfisted, punch bag half blind dwarf like Frazier could ever become a HW champion is testament to how weak the era was.

[Master]

Who did Joe Frazier avoid? What big punchers?

You are really talking rubbish.

The ma was undisputed champion and had one of the longest reigns. Do not disrespect the great heavyweight champion and then praise bums of this year.

Otherwise I will get angry.

[Max Power]

Who did Joe Frazier avoid? What big punchers?

You are really talking rubbish.

The ma was undisputed champion and had one of the longest reigns. Do not disrespect the great heavyweight champion and then praise bums of this year.

Otherwise I will get angry.

I respect Joe Frazier, the BOXER.

I do not respect Joe Frazier, the mythology!

In terms of ATGness, Frazier > Leapai (obviously)

In terms of H2H Leapai > Frazier (also obviously)

[brocktonblockbust]

what?

[Master]

Who did Joe Frazier avoid? What big punchers?

You are really talking rubbish.

The ma was undisputed champion and had one of the longest reigns. Do not disrespect the great heavyweight champion and then praise bums of this year.

Otherwise I will get angry.

I respect Joe Frazier, the BOXER.

I do not respect Joe Frazier, the mythology!

In terms of ATGness, Frazier > Leapai (obviously)

In terms of H2H Leapai > Frazier (also obviously)

Joe Frazier was champion and olympic gold medalist and Leapai is not. How dare you equate the 2 together.

[brocktonblockbust]

Joe Frazier would be wasted, most of the time in the first round, by virtually any fighter from the 90's onwards. He could not handle a hard punch.

Joe Frazier was about as glassed jawed as they come. The reason Foreman took 6 times to finish him was because Foreman was a push puncher and an arm puncher, not a concussive hitter. He never really clocked a decent opponent cold with 1 punch.

Frazier ducked all hard punchers of his era. He had to fight Foreman because it was his mandatory.

Holyfield beat fucking Mike Tyson and even knocked him out!

The fact that a chinny, featherfisted, punch bag half blind dwarf like Frazier could ever become a HW champion is testament to how weak the era was.

with all due consideration, this is about as bad as Paxtom's constant Ali-bashing.

[Arvid_85]

At first glance this fight seems like a FOTY. In reality it would have been a shutout, with The Holy Man punishing Joe with gruesome combinations. Like the Tyson fight, but without the adversity that Tyson gave Evander.