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Who did Joe Frazier avoid? What big punchers?

You are really talking rubbish.

The ma was undisputed champion and had one of the longest reigns. Do not disrespect the great heavyweight champion and then praise bums of this year.

Otherwise I will get angry.
I respect Joe Frazier, the BOXER.

I do not respect Joe Frazier, the mythology!

In terms of ATGness, Frazier > Leapai (obviously)

In terms of H2H Leapai > Frazier (also obviously)
Joe Frazier was champion and olympic gold medalist and Leapai is not. How dare you equate the 2 together.
I didn't equate the 2 together at all, I clearly separated them totally.

In Frazier's era, he won a gold medal and the HW championship. Against the criteria of his day, he achieved greatness that Alex Leapai does not even deserve a sniff at by the criteria of HIS era.

Agaisnt the criteria of Leapai's era though, Joe Frazier would never make it to the national or maybe even state side at Amateurm let alone the Olympics. He would never develop any aspirations to become a pro boxer at all because he wouldn't be good enough and were he to try he would never pass the medical test to be registered because he was half-blind (assuming that incident still occurred).

And were the Joe Frazier that WAS ever to have met the Leapai that IS in the same ring under some circumstance, Leapai would knock Frazier out in the first round under pretty much ANY circumstances! That is a fact!

And it takes nothing away from Frazier's greatness to say that! Frazier is STILL great! What he did in 1971 is still there. It will ALWAYS be there. It cannot NOT be there.

But that WAS 1971. And it is now nearly 2015!