earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

[brocktonblockbust]

Muhammad and Larry and Ron Lyle ALL said Earnie The Black Destroyer Shavers was the hardest puncher they ever faced. Thats saying alot because Ali fought Foreman and Holmes fought Tyson. Both Ali and Holmes took MONSTER SHOTS from Big George or Mike Tyson. And Lyle fought BOTH Foreman and Shavers!! And was floored (and also floored!) several times by BOTH fighters.

Larry Holmes: "Mike Tyson hit very sharp and very fast, but he didn't have tremendous power. He put me down 3 times, but I was 38 years old and trained only 2-3 weeks for the fight. He didn't hit anywhere near as hard as Earnie Shavers. Earnie Shavers hit harder than anyone I ever fought, and that includes Mike Tyson, Gerry Cooney, Witherspoon, Mike Weaver. WHEN EARNIE SHAVERS HIT ME AND KNOCKED ME DOWN, IT WAS LIKE THEM OLD-TIME FLASH CAMERAS,--- POP!!! --- I JUST SAW THIS WHITE FLASH and the next thing I know the ref was saying "5.......6.......! "Earnie Shavers...that's the hardest I ever been hit."
-Larry Holmes

Muhammad Ali: "George Foreman was a powerful puncher no doubt. He hurt me once in Zaire to the heart, it was in the second round I think. But I would have to say that The Acorn hit me harder than I was ever hit before, and I fought a lot of heavy hitters---Ron Lyle, Foreman, Frazier, Sonny Liston. "EARNIE SHAVERS, WHEW! That was the hardest I ever got hit."
-Muhammad Ali

"Earnie Shavers, he's the hardest puncher I ever faced, and that's including George Foreman. I ain't never been hit like that."
-Ron Lyle

How would they know? Bunch of liars.

exactly.

[IamInuit]

How would they know? Bunch of liars.

exactly.

You cant debate this kind of shit Brock. Well you can but I'm done really. These daily crucifixions of all time greats and misrepresentation of what people even say about them is simply over the top. I'll simply spend less time here is all. Last week it felt like this was Earnie Shavers.com....the dark side.
These dipshits cant even come to grips with giving a puncher credit for being a puncher. Its beyond addressing anymore. So now I simply don't read a thing they say or respond. Its really quite liberating even though I rarely responded to begin with. These are the same people that a few centuries ago insisted the world was flat.

Ps-I only responded here because you were the author. So I wont be back to this thread either.

And remember that famous saying often credited to Mr.Twain, "never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"

Peace

[Beanflicker]

These dipshits cant even come to grips with giving a puncher credit for being a puncher.

Who didn't give Earnie credit for being a puncher?

[Beanflicker]

I feel guilty when I see these golden age guys get so upset when someone actually bothers to question their heroes. Maybe we should just all shut up and let grampa ramble on about how his generation was the greatest

[Max Power]

I feel guilty when I see these golden age guys get so upset when someone actually bothers to question their heroes. Maybe we should just all shut up and let grampa ramble on about how his generation was the greatest

@IamInuit is in despair.

The very same internet he now uses to spread the gospel about his past heroes is the very same internet that enabled the masses to see the fights and check the records for themselves and expose his past heroes.

What a dilemma, double edged sword

[Master]

These dipshits cant even come to grips with giving a puncher credit for being a puncher.

Who didn't give Earnie credit for being a puncher?

Max power

[brocktonblockbust]

Tex Cobb:"Larry Holmes doesn't hit as hard as Earnie Shavers. Nobody hits like Shavers. If anybody hit harder than Shavers, I'd shoot him.""Earnie Shavers could punch you in the neck and break your ankle."

[Max Power]

Tex Cobb:"Larry Holmes doesn't hit as hard as Earnie Shavers. Nobody hits like Shavers. If anybody hit harder than Shavers, I'd shoot him.""Earnie Shavers could punch you in the neck and break your ankle."

Larry Holmes was not a puncher for a start. And early Larry was basically a cruiser!

[TitoFan]

LOL...... @Max Power

Are you still arguing against what Ali, Holmes, and Lyle were all quoted as saying??

Give it a rest, bro.

Once again.... pick your battles. When you start saying that three former fighters are full of shit for saying that Shavers was the one who punched them the hardest...... what are you arguing against? This isn't a fan's point of view, or even PhD in punching power. These are the actual recipients of the punches, expressing their own, personal opinion.

Do you play poker? Are you familiar with the old Kenny Rogers song?
That would be my advice to you.

[Max Power]

These dipshits cant even come to grips with giving a puncher credit for being a puncher.

Who didn't give Earnie credit for being a puncher?

Max power

I never said he was not a puncher. On the contrary, his punch seemed to be the ONLY thing he had going for him at all. I said his power dropped off remarkably in the realm of what we TODAY call HW.

I said he failed against heavy opposition. And he failed against quality opposition.

He was a cruiser-cruncher
He was a bum-buster

Almost exclusively!