Haye vs Holyfield

[Max Power]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

Haye would knock Cunningham out without even breaking a sweat. They don't even play in the same league.

Holyfield is a different story.

Something like 50/50.

Your a different story.

If Mock, Thompson and Mormeck who aren't big punchers for cruiser can stop, drop, wobble Haye then Holyfield would ruin him.

Haye wouldn't get anywhere near Cunningham who has gone on to beat more undefeated fights at heavy than Haye dare face. Oh, he didn't go near any...

Out of 6 fighters at heavy they had 25 losses! Not one undefeated, Ruiz had 8 losses and some would have you believe this was a good win and a reasonable world title defence. It wasn't. It wouldn't even be a good fight for someone on the level of Joshua!

Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!

I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.

Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?

I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.

I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.

Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud!

[ross]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

Haye would knock Cunningham out without even breaking a sweat. They don't even play in the same league.

Holyfield is a different story.

Something like 50/50.

Your a different story.

If Mock, Thompson and Mormeck who aren't big punchers for cruiser can stop, drop, wobble Haye then Holyfield would ruin him.

Haye wouldn't get anywhere near Cunningham who has gone on to beat more undefeated fights at heavy than Haye dare face. Oh, he didn't go near any...

Out of 6 fighters at heavy they had 25 losses! Not one undefeated, Ruiz had 8 losses and some would have you believe this was a good win and a reasonable world title defence. It wasn't. It wouldn't even be a good fight for someone on the level of Joshua!

Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!

I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.

Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?

I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.

I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.

Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud!

Out of 9 fights including winning the world title while cruiser weight world champion Mormeck only stopped 4 fighters!

Out of 7 fights, Holyfield only couldn't stop one!

Moron.....

[Max Power]

Yeah you are right @ross

Mormeck isn't as good a KOer as Holyfield.

Stand corrected!

[mikeeod]

Evander wins. An ATG fighter, best cruiserweight ever beats a flash in the pan with athleticism every time. Regardless of how anyone wants to qualify or excuse the loss, Haye suffered a stoppage defeat against an over the hill opponent. Evander completely cleaned out cruiser and ruined careers.

As for Evander being featherfisted, have to completely disagree with you on that one. Evander was the first to drop Riddick Bowe and Ray Mercer, obliterated Moorer when he was healthy and scored an impressive knockout of Tyson. Evander wasn't a puncher on the level of Shavers, Foreman, Tyson or Lewis but he was by no means as soft a puncher as say Chris Byrd or Maurice Harris.

[El Kabong]

Thinking of who Holyfield beat and who Haye would have trouble with....Dokes, Mercer, Bowe, Moorer....think how Haye would do vs those guys

[Spicoli]

I can't believe this is even in question In this corner you have an ATG who fought the very best...multiple times. In the other corner you have a man who choked in his only high level heavyweight competition and is more active on Twitter than the ring. This is man vs boy. Holyfield is way to deep, sturdy and battle tested for Haye.

[SlimTrae]

I can't believe this is even in question In this corner you have an ATG who fought the very best...multiple times. In the other corner you have a man who choked in his only high level heavyweight competition and is more active on Twitter than the ring. This is man vs boy. Holyfield is way to deep, sturdy and battle tested for Haye.

Thank you!

[oakleyno1]

Haha that's a fair point ... Although we did are haye caught by wlad a couple times and he stood up well tbf

[ross]

Haha that's a fair point ... Although we did are haye caught by wlad a couple times and he stood up well tbf

He got points deducted for crawling round, not standing up!

[Primo Carnera]

[/QUOTE]

Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!

I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.

Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?

I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.

I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.

Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud![/QUOTE]
Styles may make fights, but Prime vs Prime, Tyson beats the shit out of Holyfield , Tyson, Wlad, Vitaly, and Uncle Tom Cobley and all!

[AdamGB]

As for Cunningham, he was put on his arse by a fat 10 fight novice and dropped twice by Amir Mansour... I think Haye stands a chance lol

[p4pking]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

Haye would knock Cunningham out without even breaking a sweat. They don't even play in the same league.

Holyfield is a different story.

Something like 50/50.

Your a different story.

If Mock, Thompson and Mormeck who aren't big punchers for cruiser can stop, drop, wobble Haye then Holyfield would ruin him.

Haye wouldn't get anywhere near Cunningham who has gone on to beat more undefeated fights at heavy than Haye dare face. Oh, he didn't go near any...

Out of 6 fighters at heavy they had 25 losses! Not one undefeated, Ruiz had 8 losses and some would have you believe this was a good win and a reasonable world title defence. It wasn't. It wouldn't even be a good fight for someone on the level of Joshua!

Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!

I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.

Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?

I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.

I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.

Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud!

Michael Moorer was very very good at that point, what are you on about?! He was probably the best southpaw HW ever for a time, and hit really hard himself. The Holyfield that beat Tyson would have flattened Haye imo, Haye couldn't have possibly hurt him or sustained a workrate that would allow him to win without gassing out. I'm sure it would have been a great fight, but Evan Fields had way to much in the tank to lose to Haye.

[Master]

If Max says Haye would beat Holyfield we can all safely assume the opposite is correct.

If Tyson could not knock down Holyfield then Haye would not bother him either. Evander would man handle Haye and stop him in the fight.

[ross]

If Max says Haye would beat Holyfield we can all safely assume the opposite is correct.

If Tyson could not knock down Holyfield then Haye would not bother him either. Evander would man handle Haye and stop him in the fight.

Any world class heavy would which is why Haye has no wins over world class heavies

[Mr140]

Haye not even in Holyfeilds class at hw or at cw dont even know why this brought up. Holyfeild was a puncher at cw as well don't know why max is missing that. Also like said before Moorer had hell of punch and was fast and Haye chin is shit anyhow Holyfeild by ko late most likely.