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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
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    Take Shavers out of that pathetic fight, insert Samuel PEter instead, and Muhammad Zero gets KTFO of the ring in that 2nd round where he got tagged flush every few seconds.
    If Foreman and Shavers are not knocking Ali out then your fat African friend, who knocked down your lover wlad numerous times, is not going to either.

    Get real in 2015 will you.
    Oh so a bummy boxer like Shavers who is less skilled, strong, powerful and even slower than Shaver couldn't land the same punches as Shaver did in that exact same fight.

    OR

    Muhammad Ali's chin is so strong that he could survive Peter's shots too?

    What if I told you that Peter hits FAR harder than Foreman and Shavers did? What if I told you there was no way known that Muihammad could survive a Peter punch.

    What if I told you the Muhammad chin was overrated? He was badly hurt vs Cooper, by how much could his chin harden from the 60's to 70's really? His weight was not FAR heftier. He did not even wear the Foreman punch properly on his head, only in the body, for which he needed a lengthy stay in hospital.

    Maybe Shaver didn't hit as hard as you think he did. I just posted the video of their fight, I seen no punches nearly as hard as Peter's were.

    Seriously, if you really think Muhammad could withstand Peter's shots you are disgraceful overestimating the man.
    Ali took harder punches from greater fighters. Fact.

    Do not try to make out Peters is some super strong heavyweight. He was embarrassed by Vitali who was out of the fighting game for years. He lost every single round and quit.
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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Take Shavers out of that pathetic fight, insert Samuel PEter instead, and Muhammad Zero gets KTFO of the ring in that 2nd round where he got tagged flush every few seconds.
    If Foreman and Shavers are not knocking Ali out then your fat African friend, who knocked down your lover wlad numerous times, is not going to either.

    Get real in 2015 will you.
    Oh so a bummy boxer like Shavers who is less skilled, strong, powerful and even slower than Shaver couldn't land the same punches as Shaver did in that exact same fight.

    OR

    Muhammad Ali's chin is so strong that he could survive Peter's shots too?

    What if I told you that Peter hits FAR harder than Foreman and Shavers did? What if I told you there was no way known that Muihammad could survive a Peter punch.

    What if I told you the Muhammad chin was overrated? He was badly hurt vs Cooper, by how much could his chin harden from the 60's to 70's really? His weight was not FAR heftier. He did not even wear the Foreman punch properly on his head, only in the body, for which he needed a lengthy stay in hospital.

    Maybe Shaver didn't hit as hard as you think he did. I just posted the video of their fight, I seen no punches nearly as hard as Peter's were.

    Seriously, if you really think Muhammad could withstand Peter's shots you are disgraceful overestimating the man.
    Ali took harder punches from greater fighters. Fact.

    Do not try to make out Peters is some super strong heavyweight. He was embarrassed by Vitali who was out of the fighting game for years. He lost every single round and quit.
    News flash for you, Peter is a harder puncher than any of the guys Muhammad fought and a better boxer than a lot of them too, better than bloody Shavers incidentally.

    Muhammad Ali is also not Vitali Klitschko, Muhammad fights several orders of magnitude worse opposition than Vitali did and goes round after round without barely ever losing a round or even getting hit much whilst your man gets pasted by even the most terrible opponents who Vitali would never even be allowed to fight, fan would be disgraced!

    Samuel Peter is a much harder puncher than even Vitali Klitschko who was never a massive hitter, he was an accumulation fighter. Vitali beat Peter easily because he was a far superior boxer with a huge range advantage and he knew how to use it.

    Muhammad Ali is not Vitali Klitschko, he could not avoid a punch to save his life and had no timing or reflexes whatsoever as is CLEARLY evident in the Ali vs Shavers fight.

    Try it, put up Vitali vs Peter side by side with Ali vs Shavers. Despite being visibly slower than Peter, Shavers is able to land a punch on Ali about every 5-10 seconds.

    Vitali maintains a near perfect defence whilst simultaneously punching PEter's frigging lights out, where as Ali has the gravest difficulties against Shavers who spends the first part of the fight clowning around.

    How dare you compare a masterpiece performance like Vitali's dismantling of Samuel to this abomination of an Ali performance against Shavers!

    Unbelievable!
    Last edited by Max Power; 01-02-2015 at 04:54 PM.
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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Earnie Shavers hit about a factor of 10 harder than Sam "Rabbit Punch" Peter.

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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Earnie Shavers hit about a factor of 10 harder than Sam "Rabbit Punch" Peter.
    Then why is it that he could not knock Ali out despite landing flush Sunday punches on him multiple times every round?

    I already know the response.

    Shavers has the hardest punch, Muhammad has the hardest chin right?

    For ALL TIME right?

    An untestable position to take, and therefore worthless.

    Unbelievable that you cans can think this with the video and statistical evidence combined!
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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by max power View Post
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    earnie shavers hit about a factor of 10 harder than sam "rabbit punch" peter.
    then why is it that he could not knock ali out despite landing flush sunday punches on him multiple times every round?

    I already know the response.

    Shavers has the hardest punch, muhammad has the hardest chin right?

    For all time right?

    An untestable position to take, and therefore worthless.

    Unbelievable that you cans can think this with the video and statistical evidence combined!
    nobody ever knocked ali out.

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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by max power View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    earnie shavers hit about a factor of 10 harder than sam "rabbit punch" peter.
    then why is it that he could not knock ali out despite landing flush sunday punches on him multiple times every round?

    I already know the response.

    Shavers has the hardest punch, muhammad has the hardest chin right?

    For all time right?

    An untestable position to take, and therefore worthless.

    Unbelievable that you cans can think this with the video and statistical evidence combined!
    nobody ever knocked ali out.
    And this is supposed to be interpreted that nobody ever could have right? Bloody genius.

    We have seen him wasted by a 180lb bum.

    He was stopped by Holmes, which is generally taken to mean he was going to be knocked out otherwise. And he never fought a hard puncher like PEter. And Foreman never landed cleanly on his head.
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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Max oh Max what are we to do with you?

    That is the best you could come back with?

    Cooper never wasted Ali, he knocked him down.

    Ali could barely talk when he fought Holmes and still a peak Larry could not knock him down never mind out.

    Do you really think any fighter wants to get deliberately hit on the head from the most powerful heavyweight champion ever? Of course not.
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