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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    I think a fascinating match up would be a prime James Toney vs. GGG. James fights his best vs. aggressive guys, and GGG fights like a harder punching (P4P) and more skilled version of Vassily Jirov, one of Toney's best fights/performances. You need a total package, large middleweight like Toney to beat GGG. If you have any glaring weakness GGG will exploit it and use it to break you down. If you have limited power he will walk you down and just pound you out. If you have a big punch but limited boxing ability he will break you down behind the jab, as he did with Curtis Stevens. Toney would have the defense, chin, power, size/length and skills to hang with GGG and give him a great challenge. Toney was a bit inconsistent throughout his career during fights, often taking rounds off due to laziness. Would this be the flaw GGG could take advantage of, or would James punish him with his jab and counters to take the fight late?
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    Both Geale and Murray are not big hitters. Murray has a very rounded game otherwise, but people suggesting that he somehow decided to stay on the ropes have missed what was in front of them.Golovkin dictates the pace by controlling the space.

    The pressure is constant, he won't let you take a breather. Fighters can't push him onto the back foot because he won't let them. To get your own punches off you need space but you also need time. He will mix it up so that yes sometimes he gets caught by punching with you, but usually before you, or in the gap when you are trying to set your feet and readjust. He has such a varied arsenal that he will hit you through gaps you never thought were there or in places you thought were unreachable. Great defence? He will breach it. Great offense? He will read it and make you miss and punish you.

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    Default Re: What can GGG's next opponent learn from Martin Murray?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    I think a fascinating match up would be a prime James Toney vs. GGG. James fights his best vs. aggressive guys, and GGG fights like a harder punching (P4P) and more skilled version of Vassily Jirov, one of Toney's best fights/performances. You need a total package, large middleweight like Toney to beat GGG. If you have any glaring weakness GGG will exploit it and use it to break you down. If you have limited power he will walk you down and just pound you out. If you have a big punch but limited boxing ability he will break you down behind the jab, as he did with Curtis Stevens. Toney would have the defense, chin, power, size/length and skills to hang with GGG and give him a great challenge. Toney was a bit inconsistent throughout his career during fights, often taking rounds off due to laziness. Would this be the flaw GGG could take advantage of, or would James punish him with his jab and counters to take the fight late?
    This^^^^^^

    Both Geale and Murray are not big hitters. Murray has a very rounded game otherwise, but people suggesting that he somehow decided to stay on the ropes have missed what was in front of them.Golovkin dictates the pace by controlling the space.

    The pressure is constant, he won't let you take a breather. Fighters can't push him onto the back foot because he won't let them. To get your own punches off you need space but you also need time. He will mix it up so that yes sometimes he gets caught by punching with you, but usually before you, or in the gap when you are trying to set your feet and readjust. He has such a varied arsenal that he will hit you through gaps you never thought were there or in places you thought were unreachable. Great defence? He will breach it. Great offense? He will read it and make you miss and punish you.
    I agree about the gaps. This guy throws punches from very odd angles and threads the needle through a weird/diagonal kind of gap that most fighters I imagine are not thinking of; for me as a spectator I am weirdly surprised everytime he throws that odd, downward left hook through that gap. Ouch! And landing it on the top of the forehead --- jeesh! Seems it could crush a small vertebrae in the neck or something.

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