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Floyd will never be the underdog. He's TBE.
So you would favor him over Golovkin?
Floyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!
Other great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.
That's deeply flawed logic you're using.

Floyd is not Armstrong or Gavilan or Napoles or Duran. He is his own fighter and his own man.

Comparing him to these fighters based solely on how high in weight he's willing to fight is stupid.
He put that TBE hat on his head not me You are the one that said Floyd doesn't fight at 160, like it is something to be proud off I originally posted that he needs to challenge himself and GGG is a challenge is Genaro Hernandez the only fight that Floyd wasn't the favorite what were the odds when Ali fought Liston or Frazier, or Hopkins vs Kovalev if you want to call yourself a great you need to be compared with the greats
Over $400 million in career earnings.
47-0 record spanning 18 years as pro
Set the new standard for drug testing before fights
Self managed/promoted
Highest paid athlete in the world several years running
P4P #1 for years

Who has better stats than that?
So you don't want to answer the question about GGG being the favorite many great fighters had better starts than 47-0 but they took challengers and didn't establish their greatness until after losing Zarate was 52-0 before moving up to challenge Gomez and Zarate is not even considered the best bantamweight ever Benvenuti was 65-0 with a 120-0 amateur record before his first loss not to mention the number of hall of fame fighters other greats have fought

All that other stuff is irrelevant sure he's been P4P number 1, whatever that's worth, it is a highly subjective mythical list after all but when was the last time he wasn't the favorite going in Mayweather needs to challenge himself if he wants to be considered an all time great