Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
Need I remind you that James Toney was popped for PEDs and he looked EXACTLY like a fat old man....so your "just look" theory has it's holes
Yeah I've seen fat guys test positive for PEDs, I've seen guys skinny as a rake test positive for PEDs.

But when I see a professional athlete looking better at 40 than he did in his 20s, and I know that said athlete isn't being properly drug tests, ehhhh nope. Sorry, I don't buy it. Guys get worn down, they lose muscle mass and their recovery takes much longer.

The Germans have been on the cutting edge of steroids and PEDs longer than any country.