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Need I remind you that James Toney was popped for PEDs and he looked EXACTLY like a fat old man....so your "just look" theory has it's holes
Yeah I've seen fat guys test positive for PEDs, I've seen guys skinny as a rake test positive for PEDs.

But when I see a professional athlete looking better at 40 than he did in his 20s, and I know that said athlete isn't being properly drug tests, ehhhh nope. Sorry, I don't buy it. Guys get worn down, they lose muscle mass and their recovery takes much longer.

The Germans have been on the cutting edge of steroids and PEDs longer than any country.
Definitely a gray area. We can speculate, but facts are facts: He has never tested positive.

Switching up a bit. I think of someone like Roy Jones Jr. a lot smaller but was really ripped. As in ripped fuel?
Even factoring in that he had to lose muscle to go back down to LHW, it didn't mean he would become a fat body or a skinny dude.

Point: When I see RJJ today, I see a guy whose body is that of a plus 40 year old guy. It would seem that Wlad at some point would succumb to father time. I could see him being buffed, but not ripped past age 40. Similar to RJJ.

But maybe Wlad is constantly lifting weights maintaining his physique.

For the record- A prime Holy would have taken the fight to Wlad. Wlad doesent have that rage to brawl like Bowe did..or Lennox could.