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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.
    Really? Holyfield fought everyone in his era and then some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon09 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.
    Really? Holyfield fought everyone in his era and then some.
    Evander has great quality of opposition, second only to Ali. Difference for me is that Evander wasn't as consistent in winning as long or often as Ali was vs top notch opposition.

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    It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.
    Really? Holyfield fought everyone in his era and then some.
    Evander has great quality of opposition, second only to Ali. Difference for me is that Evander wasn't as consistent in winning as long or often as Ali was vs top notch opposition.
    Besides Frazier (Who was steamrolled by Big George Foreman and his 2 wins vs Liston the rest of the list can be questioned for quality. A lot of his opponents were past their primes or c level competition that were elevated when they fought Ali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon09 View Post
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    It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.
    Really? Holyfield fought everyone in his era and then some.
    Evander has great quality of opposition, second only to Ali. Difference for me is that Evander wasn't as consistent in winning as long or often as Ali was vs top notch opposition.
    Besides Frazier (Who was steamrolled by Big George Foreman and his 2 wins vs Liston the rest of the list can be questioned for quality. A lot of his opponents were past their primes or c level competition that were elevated when they fought Ali.
    Big George Foreman should not be forgotten. If Ali was not around Foreman would have been a dominant champion for a long time.
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    It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.
    Really? Holyfield fought everyone in his era and then some.
    Evander has great quality of opposition, second only to Ali. Difference for me is that Evander wasn't as consistent in winning as long or often as Ali was vs top notch opposition.
    Besides Frazier (Who was steamrolled by Big George Foreman and his 2 wins vs Liston the rest of the list can be questioned for quality. A lot of his opponents were past their primes or c level competition that were elevated when they fought Ali.
    Big George Foreman should not be forgotten. If Ali was not around Foreman would have been a dominant champion for a long time.

    Cassius Clay didn't win that fight. George Foreman lost it.

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    It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.
    Really? Holyfield fought everyone in his era and then some.
    Evander has great quality of opposition, second only to Ali. Difference for me is that Evander wasn't as consistent in winning as long or often as Ali was vs top notch opposition.
    Besides Frazier (Who was steamrolled by Big George Foreman and his 2 wins vs Liston the rest of the list can be questioned for quality. A lot of his opponents were past their primes or c level competition that were elevated when they fought Ali.
    Big George Foreman should not be forgotten. If Ali was not around Foreman would have been a dominant champion for a long time.

    Cassius Clay didn't win that fight. George Foreman lost it.
    No! Muhammad Ali won it.
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    Ezzard Charles

    I never put much credence into Cassius Clay being a great fighter. Oh, he's a wonderful boxer,
    but he's not a great fighter.

    So, he beat Sonny Liston. That's no big deal. I was boxing Sonny's his ears off when they brought
    him to Pittsburg for training back in 1955. And I was a very worn down boxer at that time.

    He was nothing but 'slow' St' Louis Hash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
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    It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.
    Really? Holyfield fought everyone in his era and then some.
    Evander has great quality of opposition, second only to Ali. Difference for me is that Evander wasn't as consistent in winning as long or often as Ali was vs top notch opposition.
    Besides Frazier (Who was steamrolled by Big George Foreman and his 2 wins vs Liston the rest of the list can be questioned for quality. A lot of his opponents were past their primes or c level competition that were elevated when they fought Ali.
    Big George Foreman should not be forgotten. If Ali was not around Foreman would have been a dominant champion for a long time.

    Cassius Clay didn't win that fight. George Foreman lost it.


    Poor old Bill his brain is addled LOL Ali is P4P # Numero Uno
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    Default Re: Where does Ali rank P4P?

    Last time I did a list I had him #6. Although the Heavyweights as a division are pound for pound weak; they do tend to have icon leaders, who should be rated highly. Ali and Louis being the top class of them leaders.
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