Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

[ryanman]

Well I never heard of McKenzie, but that's probably my fault.

Never heard of the Duke Tito?

I'll give you that. But I know a wise ancient old timer () like you wouldn't entertain Kov banging out JC.

Hey I can sympathize with how you guys feel about Joe. I cherish my own superheroes too.

Piffle. We don't need to do that. But there is no empirical evidence that Kov could bang out JC. Pure hyperbole.

[ryanman]

Thought you were more sensible than that Tito.

[ryanman]

For you Tito

[TitoFan]

Hey I love Blondie. One of the few blondes I would've done if I could.


Aw shucks R-man.... there's no empirical evidence he wouldn't have gotten blasted out, either. It's all theories and fantasies anyway.

Hell... if we can't pit our heroes against anyone from any era... and defend our guy.... what good are we?

[ryanman]

Hey I love Blondie. One of the few blondes I would've done if I could.


Aw shucks R-man.... there's no empirical evidence he wouldn't have gotten blasted out, either. It's all theories and fantasies anyway.

Hell... if we can't pit our heroes against anyone from any era... and defend our guy.... what good are we?

True enough Tito. But I'm not a man prone to hyperbole but I don't see the sense in pitting Ancient Joe that fought B Hop and RJJ and having him against a prime killer like Kov.
Maybe you Americans and Honorary Americans didn't know but JC was well past his best by the time he beat Lacy like a drum. Its all about perspective. The JC we saw was not the guy that fought Hopkins etc. He was done. What I'm saying is watch a 25-29 year old Calzaghe.

[ryanman]

And seriously Javier Culson.

[ryanman]

[TitoFan]

And seriously Javier Culson.

I thought he'd bring us our 1st Olympic gold, and it turned out to be Monica Puig who did it instead.

[Gandalf]

Hey I love Blondie. One of the few blondes I would've done if I could.


Aw shucks R-man.... there's no empirical evidence he wouldn't have gotten blasted out, either. It's all theories and fantasies anyway.

Hell... if we can't pit our heroes against anyone from any era... and defend our guy.... what good are we?

True enough Tito. But I'm not a man prone to hyperbole but I don't see the sense in pitting Ancient Joe that fought B Hop and RJJ and having him against a prime killer like Kov.
Maybe you Americans and Honorary Americans didn't know but JC was well past his best by the time he beat Lacy like a drum. Its all about perspective. The JC we saw was not the guy that fought Hopkins etc. He was done. What I'm saying is watch a 25-29 year old Calzaghe.

I think Calzaghe was always great, but I think the more refined, less powerful Calzaghe would have outboxed his younger self over 12. The experience and adaptability added to his greatness IMO. Calzaghe was vintage between Lacy and Kessler.

[ryanman]

Hey I love Blondie. One of the few blondes I would've done if I could.


Aw shucks R-man.... there's no empirical evidence he wouldn't have gotten blasted out, either. It's all theories and fantasies anyway.

Hell... if we can't pit our heroes against anyone from any era... and defend our guy.... what good are we?

True enough Tito. But I'm not a man prone to hyperbole but I don't see the sense in pitting Ancient Joe that fought B Hop and RJJ and having him against a prime killer like Kov.
Maybe you Americans and Honorary Americans didn't know but JC was well past his best by the time he beat Lacy like a drum. Its all about perspective. The JC we saw was not the guy that fought Hopkins etc. He was done. What I'm saying is watch a 25-29 year old Calzaghe.

I think Calzaghe was always great, but I think the more refined, less powerful Calzaghe would have outboxed his younger self over 12. The experience and adaptability added to his greatness IMO. Calzaghe was vintage between Lacy and Kessler.

That's often something I think about Miles. But what if JC had a proper coach? His dad was reading coaching manuals and staying one week ahead of Joe. I often felt that Joe was held back by his Dad's skill/ability/experience. Imagine JC with Roach or Hunter.