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    Default Re: "intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    The guy did stop, he took off his coat to show he had no weapons and the other cops were literally seconds away from getting to the scene. Nothing there justifies rugby tackling the geezer let alone smashing his canister in, nobody was in danger.

    Why shouldn't people have the right to question why they're being stopped?

    I can't stand pricks that blame everything on racism but there's no justification for behaviour like that unless the man was a wanted crim or threat to the cozzer or public.


    Yeah, me neither (seriously).... but consider this:


    "Cain’s jaywalking accusation exemplifies a pattern within the Del Paso Heights police district, which in the past year has been responsible for nearly 75 percent of jaywalking citations issued in the city. Half of those have gone to African-Americans, who are only about 15 percent of the area’s residents."

    Read more here: Sacramento police beating: Jaywalking, or not, toward trust | The Sacramento Bee



    So either blacks in Del Paso Heights police district do a hell of a lot more jaywalking than anybody else, or.....
    Sacramento County details
    Population1,408,480
    Percentage of Registered voters 49.5%
    RegisteredDEMOCRATS 43.9%
    Registered Republicans 31.9%


    Funny how the progressive bleeding hearts always seem to have the Stazi-esque police forces

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    Default Re: "intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened?

    What has the % of voters got to do with that?
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    Default Re: "intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened?

    I'm not being contrary here I'm being absolutely serious to all you people who think the cup did something wrong. It doesn't matter if your opinion is that crossing the street is legal or not and it doesn't matter what your opinion is. A police officer asks you to stop you don't keep walking away from him and saying f*** you f*** you leave me alone f*** you. That right there shows some kind of failure to comply which also could be a sign of something much worse that you are hiding. What is the damn big deal if an officer says to stop what is the damn big deal are you people that proud are you people that proud and indignant that if an officer asks you to stop? What is the big deal if you have to just stop for a moment it's a yes officer can I help you and stop stop right there and speak to him like a human being in a respectful Manner and see what he wants. How do you people know what this man wants?

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    Default Re: "intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened?

    Master and Tito fan and Gandalf has it ever crossed your mind what if this police officer just got a call that there was a suspect on the loose who just committed an armed robbery or a rape and this guy happens to fit the description? Are you saying the officer has no right to stop that guy just because he is jaywalking? What if he fit the description of something? Do you know what secret information the police officers or radio into each other? This police officer has every right to stop somebody in check if they think something is wrong period that is their job.

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    It doesn't surprise me that Gandalf has evaded my question in typical Lefty fashion but let's try it again Gandalf and I would like to ask master and Tito fan man to man come on man up right now and answer this question man two men without any kind of evasion. If a police officer look you squarely in the eye and said if you keep walking I am going to take you down. Stop right there or else stop please stop right there I'm going to take you down. Are you telling me that you would keep walking and tell him f*** you? I can guarantee that neither Master nor Tito friend nor Gandalf would do that in that situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    It doesn't surprise me that Gandalf has evaded my question in typical Lefty fashion but let's try it again Gandalf and I would like to ask master and Tito fan man to man come on man up right now and answer this question man two men without any kind of evasion. If a police officer look you squarely in the eye and said if you keep walking I am going to take you down. Stop right there or else stop please stop right there I'm going to take you down. Are you telling me that you would keep walking and tell him f*** you? I can guarantee that neither Master nor Tito friend nor Gandalf would do that in that situation
    A police officer must be aware that not everyone will comply for a variety of reasons. They could be deaf, mentally ill, be an addict, may have had a bad experience with police, just having a very bad day. How an officer behaves and reacts is crucial to manage the situation.
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    Default Re: "intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    It doesn't surprise me that Gandalf has evaded my question in typical Lefty fashion but let's try it again Gandalf and I would like to ask master and Tito fan man to man come on man up right now and answer this question man two men without any kind of evasion. If a police officer look you squarely in the eye and said if you keep walking I am going to take you down. Stop right there or else stop please stop right there I'm going to take you down. Are you telling me that you would keep walking and tell him f*** you? I can guarantee that neither Master nor Tito friend nor Gandalf would do that in that situation
    A police officer must be aware that not everyone will comply for a variety of reasons. They could be deaf, mentally ill, be an addict, may have had a bad experience with police, just having a very bad day. How an officer behaves and reacts is crucial to manage the situation.
    Now that right there is the closest statement that anyone has made here that opposes my view that I can respect. It is true that the person could have been deaf or retarded or something or mentally ill and in that case the policeman has to definitely take that into consideration. However I think after he heard the man cursing him and saying "no way, I didn't do anything wrong , don't bother me no way bro" I think it's pretty clear that point that the man was not mentally ill. Also @TitoFan you cannot just compare jaywalking with getting punched 20 times in the face. That is not the way it went down bro and you know it. You are deliberately skipping a couple of steps in that sequence of events. When he tried to take him down the man vehemently resisted and put up a fight and started flailing his arms back at the officers face. In that case if you get punched in the face a couple of times by someone who you are trying to subdue then I believe you can Strike Back.

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    Default Re: "intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    What has the % of voters got to do with that?
    Who these people elect = how they CHOOSE to be policed

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    Default Re: "intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened?

    Let's say the man was a fleeing murder suspect..... had been involved in a shootout with police..... had fled in a speeding car..... had forcibly resisted arrest.


    The cop STILL cannot punch the man close to 20 times in the head, causing a concussion.


    What about the preceding statement is so hard to understand??!!??

    This man was JAYWALKING, for crying out loud!!



    As a cop you're taught to leave your emotions and your personal problems at home.

    Oh..... and your racial prejudices too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Let's say the man was a fleeing murder suspect..... had been involved in a shootout with police..... had fled in a speeding car..... had forcibly resisted arrest.


    The cop STILL cannot punch the man close to 20 times in the head, causing a concussion.


    What about the preceding statement is so hard to understand??!!??

    This man was JAYWALKING, for crying out loud!!



    As a cop you're taught to leave your emotions and your personal problems at home.

    Oh..... and your racial prejudices too.

    ....well if he was a fleeing murder suspect/violent crime suspect I disagree BUT just jaywalking, just jaywalking....yeah it's fucking waaaaaaaaay too much

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    Default Re: "intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    What has the % of voters got to do with that?
    Who these people elect = how they CHOOSE to be policed
    If only that was true but that has nothing to do with how the man was treated.
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    What has the % of voters got to do with that?
    Who these people elect = how they CHOOSE to be policed
    If only that was true but that has nothing to do with how the man was treated.
    It's not true?

    NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio ordered the NYPD to crackdown on people selling untaxable/loose cigarettes and Eric Garner was resisting arrest for that very thing when he died.


    Soooo you're telling me that Mayor DeBlasio (whom people voted for) was NOT acting in the interest of NYC when he ordered the police to crackdown on that because they were losing tax money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    What has the % of voters got to do with that?
    Who these people elect = how they CHOOSE to be policed
    If only that was true but that has nothing to do with how the man was treated.
    It's not true?

    NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio ordered the NYPD to crackdown on people selling untaxable/loose cigarettes and Eric Garner was resisting arrest for that very thing when he died.


    Soooo you're telling me that Mayor DeBlasio (whom people voted for) was NOT acting in the interest of NYC when he ordered the police to crackdown on that because they were losing tax money?
    So a democratic mayor was against jaywalking and this occured

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    What has the % of voters got to do with that?
    Who these people elect = how they CHOOSE to be policed
    If only that was true but that has nothing to do with how the man was treated.
    It's not true?

    NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio ordered the NYPD to crackdown on people selling untaxable/loose cigarettes and Eric Garner was resisting arrest for that very thing when he died.


    Soooo you're telling me that Mayor DeBlasio (whom people voted for) was NOT acting in the interest of NYC when he ordered the police to crackdown on that because they were losing tax money?
    So a democratic mayor was against jaywalking and this occured
    That could be the case yes....in the case of Eric Garner it most certainly WAS how things were and what does Mayor DeBlasio do? He fucking blames the cops who were doing HIS bidding.


    This COULD be just another case of police brutality, it COULD be due to the Mayor or elected official, it COULD be something else entirely....all I know is I don't much like it. I don't want people beaten like that for fucking jaywalking....at the same time, if an officer is asking me something/ordering me to do something I'll more than likely comply. If that officer gets an attitude with me, then I could very easily see myself in the place of the man stopped for jaywalking and I don't reckon I would like that all too well.


    We've got a corrupt police force where I live, however we do have a mighty fine Sheriff (an elected official by the way). A county over they used to have a jackbooted thug of a Sheriff, he even had his deputies on steroids (no fucking lie, honest to God)!

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