Terence Crawford vs. Julius Indongo ESPN

[Fenster]

You've said multiple times Marriaga is "proven world class" the usual qualification for being proven world class in boxing is by beating a world class fighter. So you now admit, by repeatedly not naming a world class fighter he has beaten, that he hasn't beaten a world class fighter yes?

how about this, you tell me who you think is his best win and I'll supply many different rankings?(not until morning though because it is 2:28 and I need to be up in 3 and a half hours, do a few hours of work and then you'll have the rankings)

I never said Marriaga beat a "world-class" fighter, you've invented an argument in your head that hasn't got anything to do with what i've said.

No I wouldn't say the qualification for being "world-class" is necessarily determined by beating a world-class fighter, it depends on what you consider "world-class?" How does a fighter obtain a ranking with a governing body? It's certainly not determined by beating independently recognised world-class opposition. And all independent rankings use governing bodies as a guide to rating fighters.

There's many "world-class" fighters that are not champions purely because the division they operate in is so strong in depth. Or the era they fight in is so strong.

[Ron Swanson]

Okay. We've established you won't say who he has beaten that impressed. That's fine. I understand it because he hasn't beaten anyone of substance. We disagree on if the Walters loss should be included in propping him up. My point is it shouldn't because it was not competitive according to punch stats, scoring, or fans opinions. We can agree to disagree on that.

Where we differ most I suppose is I think Loma is special and because he is special he should fight other special fighters. Guys so good are rare, I don't want to see his talent wasted doing what normal fighters do.

[Fenster]

Okay. We've established you won't say who he has beaten that impressed. That's fine. I understand it because he hasn't beaten anyone of substance. We disagree on if the Walters loss should be included in propping him up. My point is it shouldn't because it was not competitive according to punch stats, scoring, or fans opinions. We can agree to disagree on that.

Where we differ most I suppose is I think Loma is special and because he is special he should fight other special fighters. Guys so good are rare, I don't want to see his talent wasted doing what normal fighters do.

No we agree on your last point too.

The only thing we disagree about is your use of bogus rankings. If you want to cite rankings to make a point then you need to provide a source/evidence so that they can be evaluated to ascertain whether or not they're worthy of consideration.

[Master]

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[Memphis]

Thanks Master, you da man

Obviously the Crawford Indongo fight is top drawer, but after that the best thing about this card is Dillian Whyte, particularly Dilliam Whyte's Instagram. The way the cunts been going on you'd think he was headlining at MSG, not propping up a card fighting a bloke no one has ever heard of.

[Master]

Thanks Master, you da man

Obviously the Crawford Indongo fight is top drawer, but after that the best thing about this card is Dillian Whyte, particularly Dilliam Whyte's Instagram. The way the cunts been going on you'd think he was headlining at MSG, not propping up a card fighting a bloke no one has ever heard of.

It is free on ESPN.

[Batman]

I was talking to a lad at work today about this fight, he knows his boxing, big fan he is

Now I don't know if this has been discussed in this thread already (I don't think it has) but we were trying to think of the last time someone unified, neither of us could think, we would throw a name out there and the other would shoot it down.

The winner of this fight will be the first person to unify and hold all four belts since Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins in 2005, I think that makes this fight that little bit more special.

Crawford has said that winning this fight should make him p4p#1, without getting into all that nonsense again the achievement certainly wouldn't harm his cause.

I'm really looking forward to this, I'm not going to be staying up for it cuz I'm going round me mom n dads tomorrow night so I'll record it and watch it first thing when I wake up at about 5am