Undefeated: The Big Zero?

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Look at guys like Farmer or Salido, their records started of terribly. But they learned their trade and reached the world level.

These are exceptions rather than the norm. Salido has taken a long road to get back over a much longer period of time than most Boxers careers.

Agree, just trying to point out that loses don't mean you can't fight.

In terms of both statistics and basic common sense you are both right. Unfortunately the 'o' nowadays means friendly matchmaking, promoters influencing/appointing judges, graft to and from sanctioning bodies etc. Deontay fucking Wilder as a classic example.