10 Biggest Polluters on Earth

[El Kabong]

If it's not all a big hoax then I guess this is easily explained....

A-listers flock to Google summit in private jets, mega yachts to talk climate change
https://pagesix.com/2019/07/30/a-lis...limate-change/
But according to Italian press reports, the attendees were expected to show up in 114 private jets, and 40 had arrived by Sunday.

The Post crunched the numbers and found that 114 first class seats from Los Angeles to Palermo, Italy, where Camp guests landed, would spew an estimated 784,000 kilograms of CO2 into the air.


but hey I'm just an average guy so I'm not allowed to fly or take a megayacht or own a car or live in my own house or have a gas stove or eat red meat...I'm supposed to live in a pod and eat bugs

[TitoFan]

I think the cartoon continues to express itself correctly. Sometimes it's not about finding flaws on the other side and sitting there... spitballs at the ready to exploit any weakness in "the enemy."

Sometimes it's about seeing the forest and not the trees. It's about realizing that many of the ideas championed by some of these climate carers (not all are "alarmists", "doomsayers", "terrorists", whatever), such as the bullet points on the cartoon...... are not the enemy and may just even be good ideas. Gosh.... fancy that!

I come from a technical background. I studied and prepared for a LEED exam some years ago, back when demand was high for LEED professionals. (Didn't go through with it due to some sudden, pressing family issues). But many of the principles espoused by LEED were just plain old common sense. Much of what is in those bullets was also in LEED teaching material. Are we to lump in EVERYTHING environmentalists do and say together..... and use the "alarmist" label..... and look for convenient scapegoats like Greta in order to trash the whole premise of making our world a better place to live?

God, I hope not.

We have to broaden our minds and stop becoming polarized at the drop of a hat. Issues become hot buttons..... and anything and everything that is mentioned regarding these issues is lumped into one pole or the other. WTF?!?

[El Kabong]

[TitoFan]

Ok..... I get your disdain from Greta.

So nothing else in the post caught your attention?

[TitoFan]

Hey Lyle, forget Greta for a minute.

Many environmentalists just want society to implement the principles we all know would be beneficial for a healthy environment. Forget the alarmists, the Gretas, the doomsayers, the extremists. Focus on what everyone knows is right. Renewable energy..... pollution control and the recycling of waste to energy that would allow much of that to happen..... the protection of our wetlands and our global forestation..... city and building designs meant to preserve the environment while conserving energy and using as much renewables as possible.... promoting alternative energy sources..... fighting pollution wherever it exists.... educating our children in these principles. What's wrong with any of that?

Let's get our heads out of the sand and support these initiatives. It's not about US vs THEM. It's about doing what's right and makes common sense to protect the environment.

[El Kabong]

Hey Lyle, forget Greta for a minute.

Many environmentalists just want society to implement the principles we all know would be beneficial for a healthy environment. Forget the alarmists, the Gretas, the doomsayers, the extremists. Focus on what everyone knows is right. Renewable energy..... pollution control and the recycling of waste to energy that would allow much of that to happen..... the protection of our wetlands and our global forestation..... city and building designs meant to preserve the environment while conserving energy and using as much renewables as possible.... promoting alternative energy sources..... fighting pollution wherever it exists.... educating our children in these principles. What's wrong with any of that?

Let's get our heads out of the sand and support these initiatives. It's not about US vs THEM. It's about doing what's right and makes common sense to protect the environment.

No other form of energy is more efficient than nuclear. We've got oil and gas for centuries and as engines improve those will become more and more efficient using less and less. Yes wetlands, rain forests, other areas need protecting, nobody disagrees with that. Pollution control is something that the free market will address.

A lot of these "green" things ain't so great.

Lithium Batteries....where do they come from?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...car-batteries/


I'm for a clean environment, I never said I wasn't, I DO think there are a lot of folks who love to preach about saving shit but they don't practice it and it's not just brainless self absorbed actors it's world leaders too!

The sea levels are rising!!!! Is the cry of many and yet Al Gore and Barack Obama both have beach front properties....why? To be on the first line of defense? HARDLY! They're massive hypocrites and they line their pockets with the money spent on these ostentatious deals like the Paris Accords...nobody audits where the money goes. Buying carbon offsets? Same exact thing as indulgences in Catholic Church....it's a racket! And who wins? The environment? Not hardly.

[Beanz]

Hey Lyle, forget Greta for a minute.

Many environmentalists just want society to implement the principles we all know would be beneficial for a healthy environment. Forget the alarmists, the Gretas, the doomsayers, the extremists. Focus on what everyone knows is right. Renewable energy..... pollution control and the recycling of waste to energy that would allow much of that to happen..... the protection of our wetlands and our global forestation..... city and building designs meant to preserve the environment while conserving energy and using as much renewables as possible.... promoting alternative energy sources..... fighting pollution wherever it exists.... educating our children in these principles. What's wrong with any of that?

Let's get our heads out of the sand and support these initiatives. It's not about US vs THEM. It's about doing what's right and makes common sense to protect the environment.

No other form of energy is more efficient than nuclear. We've got oil and gas for centuries and as engines improve those will become more and more efficient using less and less. Yes wetlands, rain forests, other areas need protecting, nobody disagrees with that. Pollution control is something that the free market will address.

A lot of these "green" things ain't so great.

Lithium Batteries....where do they come from?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...car-batteries/


I'm for a clean environment, I never said I wasn't, I DO think there are a lot of folks who love to preach about saving shit but they don't practice it and it's not just brainless self absorbed actors it's world leaders too!

The sea levels are rising!!!! Is the cry of many and yet Al Gore and Barack Obama both have beach front properties....why? To be on the first line of defense? HARDLY! They're massive hypocrites and they line their pockets with the money spent on these ostentatious deals like the Paris Accords...nobody audits where the money goes. Buying carbon offsets? Same exact thing as indulgences in Catholic Church....it's a racket! And who wins? The environment? Not hardly.

Pollution control is something that the free market will address

You are going to have to stop worshiping at this particular altar ^^^^


It is quite the opposite. Huge corporations are the natural expression of unbridled free market capitalism and they are the principle culprits for environmental destruction. Fuck that model. Fuck countries and people that insist that is still the model we should be following. That will end us.

You are so ideologically driven it is absolutely religious with you. You might as well say Fuck the planet and fuck God and his creation because the Dollar is my lord and savior. Insane stuff.

[El Kabong]

Ok..... we get your disdain from Greta.

So nothing else in the post caught your attention?

There's no graph on the chart the lil cartoon lecturer is presenting?


I assume you mean the list of great and wonderful things that we could achieve if only we go the green route?

[Beanz]

If it's not all a big hoax then I guess this is easily explained....

A-listers flock to Google summit in private jets, mega yachts to talk climate change
https://pagesix.com/2019/07/30/a-lis...limate-change/
But according to Italian press reports, the attendees were expected to show up in 114 private jets, and 40 had arrived by Sunday.

The Post crunched the numbers and found that 114 first class seats from Los Angeles to Palermo, Italy, where Camp guests landed, would spew an estimated 784,000 kilograms of CO2 into the air.


but hey I'm just an average guy so I'm not allowed to fly or take a megayacht or own a car or live in my own house or have a gas stove or eat red meat...I'm supposed to live in a pod and eat bugs

You are not an average guy at all. If everything for you can be reduced to having a quick check to see what Sage and Asparagus says should be your opinion, you are pretty fucking far from that. Everything for you is a rush to fall out and cast yourself as the victim. You claim to be some wild man of the forest and yet you can't even bring yourself to agree that a less polluted environment for future generations is something worth working towards. You are full of shit. One minute you are off to NASA with exclusive hard to negotiate access to meet the astronauts, and the next minute you are some poor bloke with an allotment and a dream of owning a Penny Farthing.


The presence of hypocrites grandstanding whilst flying around on Private Jets does not invalidate the science. You slagged of Greta Thunberg for not flying and for not being poor, now you are sticking the boot in because people are flying and yet you back a President that told you in 2016 he was not going to have the time to play Golf and has since then stuck his middle finger up and said Fuck You EL Kabong a Guzillion times as he waddles around with his golf stick ruining a good walk.