10 Biggest Polluters on Earth

[walrus]

Solar and wind power "don't work"? Another point we'll just agree to disagree.

Easy to dismiss, because it's "too much work" to continue to tweak and perfect these perfectly good (and renewable) energy sources to the point where they can be effectively used. It's this monumental laziness that continues to push these untrue narratives. There are nations out there, with a lot less scientific manpower than the U.S., that have doubled down in their efforts to make renewable energy sources completely viable.

They DO work. It's just easier to push them aside and concentrate on getting those additional widgets out the door. I'm not claiming they'll 100% substitute other energy sources. But used wisely and efficiently as complementary energy sources is not only possible..... it's urgently needed and important.

I am not diametrically opposed to any energy source, as long as the appropriate safeguards and technology is coupled with it in order to get the maximum benefit. Nuclear is an example. A dirty word for some... but we've been sloppy in the past. We need to learn from our mistakes and not just dismiss a technology as taboo, but rather go back and make damn sure all contingency plans have been addressed many times over.

Like nuclear, there are other energy technologies out there just waiting to be developed and implemented.

Wind & solar aren't efficient, they are subsidized more than any other form of energy meaning they cause for HIGHER prices, and they don't provide the benefits to outweigh the negatives.

The farther away from the Equator you are, the less helpful solar power is. Wind power only works to an extent....if the wind blows too hard it's just as if it's not blowing at all. If the kinks can be worked out, then sure I'm all for it, but right now I think it's best to focus on making more efficient engines and burning cleaner fuels.

Oil, Natural gas, Coal, Nuclear work and are consistent, efficient, and dependable

I'm not against hydroelectric power, maybe that can help. It's bound to be better than either solar or wind. I'm not against geothermal energy either. I think both hydro & geothermal energies hold a brighter future than wind and solar.

Solar power for satellites is one thing for houses and factories is quite another.


I mean it would be lovely if they worked, they don't work not in any economical sense (other than for the folks getting rich off of government subsidies)

Why are you saying solar for houses doesn’t work? I’m seeing more and more of them popping up and my neighbors got one. I believe they said it’s working out ok. Granted today the panels are covered in ice. I’m just curious of your statement as I’m considering solar on one of my houses. I am trying to weigh the pros and cons. If I can get them installed for free and give the company the right to sell excess power to the grid I’m thinking why not.

[El Kabong]

Why are you saying solar for houses doesn’t work? I’m seeing more and more of them popping up and my neighbors got one. I believe they said it’s working out ok. Granted today the panels are covered in ice. I’m just curious of your statement as I’m considering solar on one of my houses. I am trying to weigh the pros and cons. If I can get them installed for free and give the company the right to sell excess power to the grid I’m thinking why not.

Be sure to get a battery to store power from those panels otherwise when the power is out, the power is out ...as many folks in California found out much to their surprise.

[walrus]

Why are you saying solar for houses doesn’t work? I’m seeing more and more of them popping up and my neighbors got one. I believe they said it’s working out ok. Granted today the panels are covered in ice. I’m just curious of your statement as I’m considering solar on one of my houses. I am trying to weigh the pros and cons. If I can get them installed for free and give the company the right to sell excess power to the grid I’m thinking why not.

Be sure to get a battery to store power from those panels otherwise when the power is out, the power is out ...as many folks in California found out much to their surprise.

Well yes of course panels on the roof and you are still on the grid. Battery storage is a different issue. I’d love one of those Tesla solar batteries at my house but they are very costly and although when we do lose power we have lost it for 4-7 days but it’s not a regular occurrence to justify the expense but I do get concerned about some attack on the grid.

[Master]

Why are you saying solar for houses doesn’t work? I’m seeing more and more of them popping up and my neighbors got one. I believe they said it’s working out ok. Granted today the panels are covered in ice. I’m just curious of your statement as I’m considering solar on one of my houses. I am trying to weigh the pros and cons. If I can get them installed for free and give the company the right to sell excess power to the grid I’m thinking why not.

Be sure to get a battery to store power from those panels otherwise when the power is out, the power is out ...as many folks in California found out much to their surprise.

Well yes of course panels on the roof and you are still on the grid. Battery storage is a different issue. I’d love one of those Tesla solar batteries at my house but they are very costly and although when we do lose power we have lost it for 4-7 days but it’s not a regular occurrence to justify the expense but I do get concerned about some attack on the grid.

My sister has the panels and they have a process where she sells the electricity back to the grid that she does not use and it is deducted from her bill.

[walrus]

Why are you saying solar for houses doesn’t work? I’m seeing more and more of them popping up and my neighbors got one. I believe they said it’s working out ok. Granted today the panels are covered in ice. I’m just curious of your statement as I’m considering solar on one of my houses. I am trying to weigh the pros and cons. If I can get them installed for free and give the company the right to sell excess power to the grid I’m thinking why not.

Be sure to get a battery to store power from those panels otherwise when the power is out, the power is out ...as many folks in California found out much to their surprise.

Well yes of course panels on the roof and you are still on the grid. Battery storage is a different issue. I’d love one of those Tesla solar batteries at my house but they are very costly and although when we do lose power we have lost it for 4-7 days but it’s not a regular occurrence to justify the expense but I do get concerned about some attack on the grid.

My sister has the panels and they have a process where she sells the electricity back to the grid that she does not use and it is deducted from her bill.

Ya I’m thinking of something along that route. My rental place is all electric heat which makes people nervous as it can be expensive so I’m thinking of adding solar.