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you have to realize and it takes time to realize this I think I am still realizing it myself that the people who did it to themselves as you put it or how I think of my own parents when I say damn them that they messed up me and my sister so badly with gaslighting and blame-shifting and verbal abuse and physical belt whippings what you have to realize is that they too what damaged when they grow up they did not consciously do any of that stuff maybe or maybe they were helpless to stop themselves from reacting the way they did in certain situations because perhaps that was exactly the way they were treated and abused for so very very long. So what I'm saying is there is a very large element and its of what is beyond our control and what what we are helpless to because we are human beings we are not super beings we are limited human beings who yes should try as hard as we can but there are just certain things that are beyond our grasp. and that is why I just cannot say that all homeless people or poor people are personally to blame
Totally and I get you completely. But when we are talking about money and you have lived in Korea yourself know you could save half of that paycheck and over 2 years, that is 24,000 dollars, plus severance, plus pension refund (if the school paid it), you have the choice in all the jobs you have done over 30 years or so to save that 10%, to invest it. You have worked hard, you have got an education, but you lacked nurturing like I did. However, much trauma you still think you have, you have always had it in you to get out there and get a job and the savings potential has always been there for you. You spent years overseas where you don't even pay rent most of the time. Again, loads of little perks. Trauma has not stopped you working. We knuckle down.
Both you little pussies have no idea what trauma is. Try a few explosions and see people blown up around you. Worry about mines and snipers. Kick in some doors not knowing what’s on the other side. Take a few rounds when you are tree top flying. I’ll show you trauma. Take off your ballerina shoes and go sell crazy somewhere else I’m full up here
That is a whole nother universe that is something that nobody can imagine except for you and people who like you did that. That is something that we have only seen about in the movies and heard about from veterans like you. There is no way we could imagine that. And when you guys come back from that there is no way anybody can tell you what kind of a life you should live or what kind of a job you can do or can't do or are capable of doing or emotionally wanting even to do after that. That is unimaginable stuff compared to what we are talking about here is in a totally different universe