Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?

[Gandalf]

Cancer, heart conditions, Alzheimer's, etc.......... all diseases that come from genetically pre-disposed conditions, lifestyle, hereditary considerations, and other factors out of our control.

A virus is something you catch from someone else, through some type of social contact.

Can we stop comparing COVID statistics with those of cancer and heart attacks, FFS?

Thanks.

It's about numbers. Cancer is not syphilis but we still care about the numbers and its impact. I do not know anyone with syphilis either, though I have wondered about some.

[Beanz]

Fuck. Here we go. In sweeps Gladys with a poll up her arse and an allergy to any reality that doesn't involve a helmet of mirrors and an adoring camp personal assistant in a gimp suit greasing up her next arse candle.

[Gandalf]

Fuck. Here we go. In sweeps Gladys with a poll up her arse and an allergy to any reality that doesn't involve a helmet of mirrors and an adoring camp personal assistant in a gimp suit greasing up her next arse candle.

Is that a no?

[TitoFan]

Cancer, heart conditions, Alzheimer's, etc.......... all diseases that come from genetically pre-disposed conditions, lifestyle, hereditary considerations, and other factors out of our control.

A virus is something you catch from someone else, through some type of social contact.

Can we stop comparing COVID statistics with those of cancer and heart attacks, FFS?

Thanks.

It's about numbers. Cancer is not syphilis but we still care about the numbers and its impact. I do not know anyone with syphilis either, though I have wondered about some.

No... it's about apples and oranges.

To me, it's pointless to mention cancer and heart attacks when talking about COVID-19.

An apples to apples comparison would be the flu, and we've already seen how the numbers go. THAT's where I would agree it's about the numbers.... when comparing apples and apples.

Syphilis is a sexually-transmitted disease and belongs even less in the conversation.



Frankly... I don't know where all of this is supposed to lead. If it's to minimize COVID-19 as a pandemic and a major threat to people's health and lives....... no..... I'm not on board.

[Beanz]

Cancer, heart conditions, Alzheimer's, etc.......... all diseases that come from genetically pre-disposed conditions, lifestyle, hereditary considerations, and other factors out of our control.

A virus is something you catch from someone else, through some type of social contact.

Can we stop comparing COVID statistics with those of cancer and heart attacks, FFS?

Thanks.

It's about numbers. Cancer is not syphilis but we still care about the numbers and its impact. I do not know anyone with syphilis either, though I have wondered about some.

No... it's about apples and oranges.

To me, it's pointless to mention cancer and heart attacks when talking about COVID-19.

An apples to apples comparison would be the flu, and we've already seen how the numbers go. THAT's where I would agree it's about the numbers.... when comparing apples and apples.

Syphilis is a sexually-transmitted disease and belongs even less in the conversation.



Frankly... I don't know where all of this is supposed to lead. If it's to minimize COVID-19 as a pandemic and a major threat to people's health and lives....... no..... I'm not on board.

That is absolutely what it is about. That and to make all about EL Kabongs fucking rights and Gladys' Ego.

[Gandalf]

Cancer, heart conditions, Alzheimer's, etc.......... all diseases that come from genetically pre-disposed conditions, lifestyle, hereditary considerations, and other factors out of our control.

A virus is something you catch from someone else, through some type of social contact.

Can we stop comparing COVID statistics with those of cancer and heart attacks, FFS?

Thanks.

It's about numbers. Cancer is not syphilis but we still care about the numbers and its impact. I do not know anyone with syphilis either, though I have wondered about some.

No... it's about apples and oranges.

To me, it's pointless to mention cancer and heart attacks when talking about COVID-19.

An apples to apples comparison would be the flu, and we've already seen how the numbers go. THAT's where I would agree it's about the numbers.... when comparing apples and apples.

Syphilis is a sexually-transmitted disease and belongs even less in the conversation.



Frankly... I don't know where all of this is supposed to lead. If it's to minimize COVID-19 as a pandemic and a major threat to people's health and lives....... no..... I'm not on board.

That is absolutely what it is about. That and to make all about EL Kabongs fucking rights and Gladys' Ego.

I am saying I know cancer and heart disease, but nobody with Corona. It has nothing to do with ego.

[Gandalf]

So, if you are telling the truth Beanz and that several people in a town where 142 cases are confirmed are your own family then you have my sympathy and I am sorry that you appear to be so incredibly unlucky. The odds of calamity always seem to be on your side.

Still, by the sounds of it they have all been okay and no emergency care needed. If it really was Covid, you should CT scan the lungs and check for permanent damage. It can come back fairly easily.

Please stay safe and avoid people.

[Memphis]

Lyle. Not perturbed. Just interested. As an aside, this recent fashion of feeling like we’ve upset another poster or made them angry I also find Interesting in an odd way. Anyway....

By all means ask whatever you like. Say whatever you like. I don’t really care. My only interest was the why. Why you felt the need to ask those questions in the first place or google statistics to support an argument that if this is no more or less than flu, didn’t really need asking or googling.

If I said my whole family had the flu, you wouldn’t waste any time or effort looking into it, right? I hope not anyway.

I’m not trying to prove or disprove anything.

[TIC]

the flu didn't shutdown the world. titofan can we compare it with tuberculosis? i thought we cared about saving lives. things causing the most lives should be dealt with, no? what about starvation? there is already a cure, it's called food. i heard the american surgeon general & the coronavirus task force had dumped the gates, cdc, who model. don't know if that's true but i can tell you that the lockdowns will cause more damage than the virus

[Beanz]

Oh Goody, Look it's fucking John Rambo ready to give us all a war we will never forget. Look out he may throw tinned food at you

[TIC]

Oh Goody, Look it's fucking John Rambo ready to give us all a war we will never forget. Look out he may throw tinned food at you

how did you know your family members had covid-19? i mean actually know? didn't you say they weren't tested? did you just guess?

[El Kabong]

Lyle. Not perturbed. Just interested. As an aside, this recent fashion of feeling like we’ve upset another poster or made them angry I also find Interesting in an odd way. Anyway....

By all means ask whatever you like. Say whatever you like. I don’t really care. My only interest was the why. Why you felt the need to ask those questions in the first place or google statistics to support an argument that if this is no more or less than flu, didn’t really need asking or googling.

If I said my whole family had the flu, you wouldn’t waste any time or effort looking into it, right? I hope not anyway.

I’m not trying to prove or disprove anything.

So the fact that there's SIGNIFICANTLY more cases of seasonal flu doesn't impact your belief at all? Even when there's no test done for Chinese Coronavirus?

I mean if that's what you think fine, just seems a bit of a jump to conclusions to me.

[Beanz]

Just to make it crystal clear. I have no idea if i have had the corona virus or whether my Mrs, or anyone else in our family, who has been ill over the last 6 weeks has. There is no test available until you are hospitalised by it. The last time i have been more ill was about 6 or 7 years ago and then i ended up in the back of an Ambulance. Myself and the Mrs came back from Holiday to find one week later that the Hotel directly opposite to the one we stayed in was locked down full of people with Corona virus symptoms. They could not leave the Hotel or fly home.

All of us have had the flu several times before, and i can assure it was not the flu, whatever it was. At no point was any of our breathing bad enough to call for an ambulance but that does not mean we just had a bit of a cold either. I don't want to tempt fate or fuck about when perfectly healthy people a lot younger and fitter than me are dying alone in hospital, so I can literally say hand on heart, I do not know.

Also i want to be clear that this misguided idea about living in areas that are not so densely populated. You can not extrapolate from that some kind of theory that pretends it is safer. There are far fewer ICU beds (barely double figures for the whole of Cornwall) and critical care units, and with quite an elderly retired population the pressure on regional hospitals in rural areas is massive. That is why second home owners have been told to stay in their first homes.

Also thanks El Kabong for thinking that none of us dying proves your stupid little theory, ignoring the fact that perfectly healthy people are dying from it whilst the majority, even with pre-existing health conditions make a good recovery.

They think.

Also if you and Gandalf think that it is so likely that i and my family and loved ones would probably die if we had it, why were you both so keen to call me a scardy cat and a coward and a baby etc?


The crazy thing is that i have been anything but hysterical. Not here, not in my everyday life. I have to carry on. You don't get a day off when you are a carer , You don't get classed as vulnerable by the Government even if you literally cannot get out without support to shop etc. So my Mrs does not qualify for free deliveries or any help even if i am bed bound, and yet if she had to go to hospital they would score her high enough to put someone else in an ICU bed ahead of her if numbers were tight, which they are. So yeah ...fucking lecture me about responsibility and social distancing Gladys why not?

I mean if I am ill again who is going to help the Mrs wash her one hand? something as simple as that. We have an automatic dispenser but it is virtually impossible to work up enough lather with one hand to wash off any viral traces. For the disabled this is doubly scary. Yet she isn't scared she is far braver than you will ever be. She has been in an ICU unit for months, been in a coma, had to learn how to walk, talk, eat etc so she really goes at life with no fear. I would not dare be a coward when living with someone like that.

You plum.

[El Kabong]

Just to make it crystal clear. I have no idea if i have had the corona virus or whether my Mrs, or anyone else in our family, who has been ill over the last 6 weeks has. There is no test available until you are hospitalised by it.

Thank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.

How was it treated? What medicines?

[Beanz]

Just to make it crystal clear. I have no idea if i have had the corona virus or whether my Mrs, or anyone else in our family, who has been ill over the last 6 weeks has. There is no test available until you are hospitalised by it.

Thank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.

How was it treated? What medicines?

Thousands of people working on the front line in hospitals everyday cannot get a test. "I have no idea if i have had the Corona Virus" is not a difficult sentence to untangle. You can pretend that i said "i believe i had it" but i never said that. You said that .

You must be loving having every one of your biases confirmed.