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    My mother in law works in the fields with a traditional covering for the head, has oriental eyes, and uses chopsticks. Kinda normal, old boy. Out here in brochures whitey often has exaggerated round eyes and a pointy nose.

    Do me and my mother in law not somewhat fit those stereotypes? Of course we do and no harm is done and the world is just fine.

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    Default Re: Name a time in history it was the good guys banning books

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    My mother in law works in the fields with a traditional covering for the head, has oriental eyes, and uses chopsticks. Kinda normal, old boy. Out here in brochures whitey often has exaggerated round eyes and a pointy nose.

    Do me and my mother in law not somewhat fit those stereotypes? Of course we do and no harm is done and the world is just fine.



    What you are basically saying then is that unless you yourself are offended it doesn't matter what any else thinks? You never address the substance of anything, just surface level virtue signalling and no real engagement with anything but your own inflated opinion. It is a growing trend here on the forum. It is almost like people don't want to discuss or debate anything just use it as a soapbox. Now you have people boasting about not reading others posters or claiming they use too man words, or calling them boy as though that were some kind of alternative to engaging with them.

    It has nothing to do with you does it? It is a private company and the people who own the rights to a reputation they are trying to honour. You just want to tell other people what to do.

    Which ironically is the exact thing your are bitching about
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    How short people's memories are..just off the top of my head these are some things the conservative right have called to be cancelled and banned.


    Harry Potter (Demonic)
    Judas Priest ( Satanic when played backwards)
    The Simpsons (anti-Christian)
    D&D (Satanic)
    Teletubbies (Gay propaganda)
    Disney's Frozen (Peterson the bellend insisting it was Feminist propaganda)
    Angry Femninsts
    Anti Fascism
    Even very straightforward sex education in schools
    Teaching Evolution
    Kosher Food
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    How short people's memories are..just off the top of my head these are some things the conservative right have called to be cancelled and banned.


    Harry Potter (Demonic)
    Judas Priest ( Satanic when played backwards)
    The Simpsons (anti-Christian)
    D&D (Satanic)
    Teletubbies (Gay propaganda)
    Disney's Frozen (Peterson the bellend insisting it was Feminist propaganda)
    Angry Femninsts
    Anti Fascism
    Even very straightforward sex education in schools
    Teaching Evolution
    Kosher Food
    etc, etc
    Why are you making it into a left and right issue? Is teaching kids about sex really about left wing or right wing?

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    Off the top, the fact we have elected House leaders reading them on camera is pretty idiotic. Americans can be sad. It's like we're in a race to prove who is politically more desperate and pathetic. Government officials should not be calling for and advocating for any 'books' to be removed from the free market and I really don't see that as happening here. But man do we have available the dates when these 6 titles were first released? I know the Mulberry one was his very first title in 1937. Talking about China and Japanese that was a helluva brutal time. I think this may be a small part of this Country just admitting and owning..yeh, we've come a long way from some real wrongs done in our name. Have you ever taken a look at years and years of wartime propaganda thought up, created and released by the US Government at the same time? It was absolutely savage with depictions of Asians namely Japanese. Look if the company sees fit to discontinue the availability then so be it. But I do think we don't give kids enough credit for thinking for themselves and defining themselves. It's not a healthy investment to try to 'soft land' every single aspect of what they are exposed to often done to score political chuckles and talking points. Kids gotta learn man. I do remember flipping through many a Dr. Suess title when growing up in the 70's and I can say I never once thought "hahaha look at the funny slant eyes". Honestly I was too busy sneaking a peak at my old mans Easy Rider and OUI mags looking for boobs and reading all of the Time Life WWII almanacs literally depicting Japanese as fanged tooth yellow rats. This is really a non issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Off the top, the fact we have elected House leaders reading them on camera is pretty idiotic. Americans can be sad. It's like we're in a race to prove who is politically more desperate and pathetic. Government officials should not be calling for and advocating for any 'books' to be removed from the free market and I really don't see that as happening here. But man do we have available the dates when these 6 titles were first released? I know the Mulberry one was his very first title in 1937. Talking about China and Japanese that was a helluva brutal time. I think this may be a small part of this Country just admitting and owning..yeh, we've come a long way from some real wrongs done in our name. Have you ever taken a look at years and years of wartime propaganda thought up, created and released by the US Government at the same time? It was absolutely savage with depictions of Asians namely Japanese. Look if the company sees fit to discontinue the availability then so be it. But I do think we don't give kids enough credit for thinking for themselves and defining themselves. It's not a healthy investment to try to 'soft land' every single aspect of what they are exposed to often done to score political chuckles and talking points. Kids gotta learn man. I do remember flipping through many a Dr. Suess title when growing up in the 70's and I can say I never once thought "hahaha look at the funny slant eyes". Honestly I was too busy sneaking a peak at my old mans Easy Rider and OUI mags looking for boobs and reading all of the Time Life WWII almanacs literally depicting Japanese as fanged tooth yellow rats. This is really a non issue.
    Yes, but you do not see any 'fanged tooth yellow rats' in the image I link to here, do you? If you think the abolition of this image is somehow "just admitting and owning" and a sign that "We've come a long way", then I suggest you play Streets of Rage 4, get to the Chinatown area and kill the skinny Asians and the fat martial arts chaps for kicks. These are stereotypes too, but there are stereotypes of whites, Asians, blacks too and it is just for fun. It is a game, just as these are just kids books. Christ on a bike.

    https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news...nsitive-images
    Last edited by Gandalf; 03-07-2021 at 04:13 AM. Reason: Added the horrifying images that will keep me up at night for decades

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    Default Re: Name a time in history it was the good guys banning books

    Society is ruined! Fat Asian with small eyes into martial arts, skinny Asians, Thai style kick boxers. How dare they! Stereotypes! Ban this game! Improve our social cohesion!




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    Default Re: Name a time in history it was the good guys banning books

    Interesting debate. It's like what I feel about the Cleveland Indians and the (formerly named) Washington Redskins.

    Here's the logo of the former.



    Here WAS the logo of the former.





    One was offensive and insulting. The other one wasn't. Yet it was the Washington Redskins who got "de-named" and are now known as the Washington Football Team. The remain logo-less.

    Pity.

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    Default Re: Name a time in history it was the good guys banning books

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    How short people's memories are..just off the top of my head these are some things the conservative right have called to be cancelled and banned.


    Harry Potter (Demonic)
    Judas Priest ( Satanic when played backwards)
    The Simpsons (anti-Christian)
    D&D (Satanic)
    Teletubbies (Gay propaganda)
    Disney's Frozen (Peterson the bellend insisting it was Feminist propaganda)
    Angry Femninsts
    Anti Fascism
    Even very straightforward sex education in schools
    Teaching Evolution
    Kosher Food
    etc, etc
    Why are you making it into a left and right issue? Is teaching kids about sex really about left wing or right wing?

    Because while of course people right across the political spectrum can be over eager to ban stuff, historically it has been the conservative right who have been far more eager to ban stuff. That is undeniable.

    I don't understand this stupid desire to pretend to be playing Devil's advocate on behalf of very well accepted mainstream groups. It is baffling and odd.

    Right wing conservative groups across the world, largely influenced by religious beliefs, be that Fundamentalist Christians, Orthodox Jews or Conservative Muslims have all been at the forefront of opposing sex education even before Gay rights etc were included. They did not want even the mechanics of reproduction or contraception discussed because ignorance of those things is what keeps their flocks in line. The left historically have kicked against that kind of control. You know this but you have adopted this weird alt right virtue signalling persona that demands you deny it .
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    Beaner, I can show you wedding photos of people with oriental eyes, using chopsticks and eating rice, and wearing hanbok. It really is just normal Asian culture. The only difference was the chap was China of the past.

    Should I go on a crusade and demand British customs and eyelid surgery for all? I like how people are.

    Nowt wrong wth it. The racists are those ignorant of other cultures that are nothing like the UK or US. Korean art often has often depicted people in quite a similar way.

    Should the masks be banned too? Where is your line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Beaner, I can show you wedding photos of people with oriental eyes, using chopsticks and eating rice, and wearing hanbok. It really is just normal Asian culture. The only difference was the chap was China of the past.

    Should I go on a crusade and demand British customs and eyelid surgery for all? I like how people are.

    Nowt wrong wth it. The racists are those ignorant of other cultures that are nothing like the UK or US. Korean art often has often depicted people in quite a similar way.

    Should the masks be banned too? Where is your line?

    I can introduce you to Morris dancers who insist on wearing a blackface and those who realising other colours are available choose to wear no face make up or brightly coloured makeup. It really is just normal British and Celtic culture but neither is an excuse to fight for the right to still televise racist bullshit like the Black and White minstrel show like they did here in the UK when i was a child.

    You are still pretending that everything should conform to your sensibilities and the ultra conservative country you chose to move to. The decision of a private company to not reprint something is not even in the same library as banning anything, let alone the same page.

    Why can't you just be honest?
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    Default Re: Name a time in history it was the good guys banning books

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    How short people's memories are..just off the top of my head these are some things the conservative right have called to be cancelled and banned.


    Harry Potter (Demonic)
    Judas Priest ( Satanic when played backwards)
    The Simpsons (anti-Christian)
    D&D (Satanic)
    Teletubbies (Gay propaganda)
    Disney's Frozen (Peterson the bellend insisting it was Feminist propaganda)
    Angry Femninsts
    Anti Fascism
    Even very straightforward sex education in schools
    Teaching Evolution
    Kosher Food
    etc, etc

    Elvis Presley
    The Beatles
    The Stones
    et cetera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    How short people's memories are..just off the top of my head these are some things the conservative right have called to be cancelled and banned.


    Harry Potter (Demonic)
    Judas Priest ( Satanic when played backwards)
    The Simpsons (anti-Christian)
    D&D (Satanic)
    Teletubbies (Gay propaganda)
    Disney's Frozen (Peterson the bellend insisting it was Feminist propaganda)
    Angry Femninsts
    Anti Fascism
    Even very straightforward sex education in schools
    Teaching Evolution
    Kosher Food
    etc, etc
    Wishful thinking from very small populations having little to no impact vs books being banned outright.


    And it ain't "Conservatives" seeking to ban Tom Sawyer or To Kill a Mockingbird either.


    It's all very silly business

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    My mother in law works in the fields with a traditional covering for the head, has oriental eyes, and uses chopsticks. Kinda normal, old boy. Out here in brochures whitey often has exaggerated round eyes and a pointy nose.

    Do me and my mother in law not somewhat fit those stereotypes? Of course we do and no harm is done and the world is just fine.



    What you are basically saying then is that unless you yourself are offended it doesn't matter what any else thinks? You never address the substance of anything, just surface level virtue signalling and no real engagement with anything but your own inflated opinion. It is a growing trend here on the forum. It is almost like people don't want to discuss or debate anything just use it as a soapbox. Now you have people boasting about not reading others posters or claiming they use too man words, or calling them boy as though that were some kind of alternative to engaging with them.

    It has nothing to do with you does it? It is a private company and the people who own the rights to a reputation they are trying to honour. You just want to tell other people what to do.

    Which ironically is the exact thing your are bitching about
    What substance? Stop sidetracking and get back to the oriental image. What is offensive about a farmers hat that protects from the sun? What is offensive about oriental eyes? What is offensive about chopsticks? What is offensive about traditional clothes that are usually worn on special occasions?

    Who and what are you arguing on behalf of? It is so silly. I share my life with Asians and brought this up when my wife was chatting to her sister yesterday. They found it strange that it was even a topic. We joke about differences in appearance quite casually. I am big nose and they have smaller eyes. Again, so what? I can use chopsticks. Stop the clocks. Lordy.

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    I am arguing on behalf of honesty and your argument is fundamentally dishonest. You as usual are cherry picking, moving the goal posts and deflecting in order to not admit you just jumped on the bandwagon instead of thinking for yourself.
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