Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

[TIC]

So yeah Mild like flu symptoms from the second shot. I say flu. I've no idea if it was actually flu because I'm not in a position to say if flu actually exists.

lets say you were ill. i like your deceptive tactic of changing the subject that has nothing to do with what i'm asking

[TIC]

At this point I just find it amazing that anyone here still gives a flying fuck WHAT this dude believes or doesn't believe.

Again... when Alpha was spouting his flat Earth doctrine all over the forum... I initially tried using reason and logic. When I saw it was fruitless and the same comebacks were being regurgitated over and over again... I switched to "poking fun" mode. Yeah, it got hot for awhile... but eventually I just left him for incorrigible. These people aren't searching for truth... just ATTENTION.

Contrary to what some may think, this guy isn't an Alpha alt. Alpha was hard-headed... but he didn't insult people.

But in all this, what continues to bug me is how these non-believers, anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers, etc. are imposing their will on the rest of the population by attacking others, and attempting to shut down vaccination facilities.

Boils down to the same shit as other issues. Believe what you want... just don't force your warped fantasies on me.

i'm the one asking for others to prove what they believe is true. what restrictions have i forced on peoples lives?

[TitoFan]

At this point I just find it amazing that anyone here still gives a flying fuck WHAT this dude believes or doesn't believe.

Again... when Alpha was spouting his flat Earth doctrine all over the forum... I initially tried using reason and logic. When I saw it was fruitless and the same comebacks were being regurgitated over and over again... I switched to "poking fun" mode. Yeah, it got hot for awhile... but eventually I just left him for incorrigible. These people aren't searching for truth... just ATTENTION.

Contrary to what some may think, this guy isn't an Alpha alt. Alpha was hard-headed... but he didn't insult people.

But in all this, what continues to bug me is how these non-believers, anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers, etc. are imposing their will on the rest of the population by attacking others, and attempting to shut down vaccination facilities.

Boils down to the same shit as other issues. Believe what you want... just don't force your warped fantasies on me.

i'm the one asking for others to prove what they believe is true. what restrictions have i forced on peoples lives?

Who's forcing you to wear masks or get shots? So far as I know, no one has tackled you to the ground... pinned you down... and gave you a vaccine against your will.

Now as for business owners having the right to deny entry or service to unmasked or unvaccinated people... that is their right as business owners. You of course, are free to go elsewhere.

What restrictions have you forced? Maybe none personally. But people with your beliefs are harrassing/attacking people wearing masks, as well as attempting to shut down vaccination sites.

[Primo Carnera]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Mate, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief, not mine.

it's your problem to prove your belief to be true. you have already admitted that you don't know

Exactly!!! So I get a pass from “proving my belief to be true, because it’s not technically my belief” Whereas you, my Pedigree chum, “Believe” there isn’t a virus.
So I ask again, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief.

it's not my problem to prove someone else's belief is true. those stating something is true needs to prove that. you should be asking the same question as me of these believers if you were really interested in the truth

Nah, nah, nah, I’m not asking you to prove anyone else’s belief is true , I’m asking you to prove that YOUR BELIEF that a virus doesn’t exist is true.
Listen , I’ve tied you up in knots, you clearly can’t answer, so we’ll leave it there, MATE!

maybe you don't understand but it's not my job to prove someone else's belief to be true. i don't need to prove it doesn't exist. that is stupid

Nah mate, you’ve fucked it! Going round in circles , rinse and repeat. Top bottle job ^^^^^^^

[TIC]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Mate, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief, not mine.

it's your problem to prove your belief to be true. you have already admitted that you don't know

Exactly!!! So I get a pass from “proving my belief to be true, because it’s not technically my belief” Whereas you, my Pedigree chum, “Believe” there isn’t a virus.
So I ask again, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief.

it's not my problem to prove someone else's belief is true. those stating something is true needs to prove that. you should be asking the same question as me of these believers if you were really interested in the truth

Nah, nah, nah, I’m not asking you to prove anyone else’s belief is true , I’m asking you to prove that YOUR BELIEF that a virus doesn’t exist is true.
Listen , I’ve tied you up in knots, you clearly can’t answer, so we’ll leave it there, MATE!

maybe you don't understand but it's not my job to prove someone else's belief to be true. i don't need to prove it doesn't exist. that is stupid

Nah mate, you’ve fucked it! Going round in circles , rinse and repeat. Top bottle job ^^^^^^^

why are we talking about covaids? because people believe it's real. it's not my job to prove that belief is real. it's not my belief. why aren't you asking how people know it to be true? that would be seeking the truth

[Kirkland Laing]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Neither of us have any kind of medical training or sophisticated knowledge about viruses. We have to go on the evidence as we see it.

On one side of this question about whether the virus exists or not are thousands of the world's top epidemiologists, virologists, medical experts, hundreds of thousands of doctors and millions of healthcare professionals not to mention millions of dead bodies and tens of millions of people who have had the virus.

On the other side are a small bunch of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people on the internet claiming with zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist. Surely considering the preponderance of evidence on one side of the argument and the complete lack of evidence on the other side it should be up to the nutters to provide some evidence that the virus doesn't exist and the whole thing is some kind of conspiracy?

none of what you have posted states how you know there is a virus. you are stating something is real & i am asking you to tell me how you know this to be true. we both know you can't but you can't admit that. you only have a belief

Neither of us have any kind of qualification or expertise in virology or epidemiology and neither of us have access to any of the various healthcare and disease control systems around the world that are dealing with this virus so neither of us have any actual personally attested evidence that the virus does or does not exist.

We only have observable reality.

On my side of the argument are thousands of virologists and epidemiologists, tens of thousands of doctors and medical specialists and millions of dead people killed by the virus along with tens of millions of people infected by it. The wealth of evidence that the virus exists is incontrovertible. It would be impossible to construct a conspiracy so elaborate and so we can say that there is literally no other explanation for the events of the past eighteen months other than the fact that the virus exists. The fact that the virus does exist is basically an uncontested fact among all political stripes and ideologies worldwide, even among the vast majority of American conservatives.

On your side of the argument are a small number of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people who insist while offering zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

so you admit you don't know & are just happy to believe. there is no fact that the virus exists because you would be able to tell me how you know that is true

I do know that the virus exists. I'm saying that I don't have the physical proof that it exists in my hand. Even if I did and I was in a position to give you the physical proof you wouldn't be able to understand it.

The virus does indeed exist. We have isolated it and genetically sequenced it. We literally know its DNA. We have tested hundreds of millions of humans over the past year and a half and found that tens of millions of them have been infected with a virus with the exact genetic sequence of SARS CoV-2. This exact virus has killed millions of these infected humans. These are unarguable facts.

The only people disputing these facts are a collection of halfwits and/or crazy people. If you think you can dispute these clear and unambiguous facts then go right ahead.

[TIC]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Neither of us have any kind of medical training or sophisticated knowledge about viruses. We have to go on the evidence as we see it.

On one side of this question about whether the virus exists or not are thousands of the world's top epidemiologists, virologists, medical experts, hundreds of thousands of doctors and millions of healthcare professionals not to mention millions of dead bodies and tens of millions of people who have had the virus.

On the other side are a small bunch of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people on the internet claiming with zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist. Surely considering the preponderance of evidence on one side of the argument and the complete lack of evidence on the other side it should be up to the nutters to provide some evidence that the virus doesn't exist and the whole thing is some kind of conspiracy?

none of what you have posted states how you know there is a virus. you are stating something is real & i am asking you to tell me how you know this to be true. we both know you can't but you can't admit that. you only have a belief

Neither of us have any kind of qualification or expertise in virology or epidemiology and neither of us have access to any of the various healthcare and disease control systems around the world that are dealing with this virus so neither of us have any actual personally attested evidence that the virus does or does not exist.

We only have observable reality.

On my side of the argument are thousands of virologists and epidemiologists, tens of thousands of doctors and medical specialists and millions of dead people killed by the virus along with tens of millions of people infected by it. The wealth of evidence that the virus exists is incontrovertible. It would be impossible to construct a conspiracy so elaborate and so we can say that there is literally no other explanation for the events of the past eighteen months other than the fact that the virus exists. The fact that the virus does exist is basically an uncontested fact among all political stripes and ideologies worldwide, even among the vast majority of American conservatives.

On your side of the argument are a small number of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people who insist while offering zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

so you admit you don't know & are just happy to believe. there is no fact that the virus exists because you would be able to tell me how you know that is true

I do know that the virus exists. I'm saying that I don't have the physical proof that it exists in my hand. Even if I did and I was in a position to give you the physical proof you wouldn't be able to understand it.

The virus does indeed exist. We have isolated it and genetically sequenced it. We literally know its DNA. We have tested hundreds of millions of humans over the past year and a half and found that tens of millions of them have been infected with a virus with the exact genetic sequence of SARS CoV-2. This exact virus has killed millions of these infected humans. These are unarguable facts.

The only people disputing these facts are a collection of halfwits and/or crazy people. If you think you can dispute these clear and unambiguous facts then go right ahead.

you haven't told me how you know the virus exits. who is we? do you suffer from dissociative identity disorder? you don't know shit & can't prove anything you are stating. tell me how you know it is real was the question. not what you have been told. tell me how you isolated this virus from a person. can't wait to hear this

[Master]

Other than the fact that World Health Organisation declared covid 19 outbreak a global pandemic, coincide with the rise in deaths due to this virus around the world as well as this is how virus spread I have nothing.

[X]

I have never seen Manny Pacquiaio in the flesh. He could be a computer generated image on my TV really. In fact, he probably is.

Has anyone actually isolated him to prove he exists?

[Master]

I have never seen Manny Pacquiaio in the flesh. He could be a computer generated image on my TV really. In fact, he probably is.

Has anyone actually isolated him to prove he exists?

I think you do not exist and are computer generated.

[X]

How do you know Manny Pacquiaio exists? I am immune to bullshit.

You just choose to believe he exists. Show me how you know. Where is your proof?

[TitoFan]

I actually went to a couple of Felix Trinidad's fights and even shook hands with him at another event. I'd have to admit though... I didn't ask for a photo ID or a blood sample.

[X]

I see what you did there. You switched to talking about Felix Trinidad, and avoided answering my question. You believe that you can catch Manny Pacquiaio from a moist surface. How do you know that? Can you prove there is such a thing as a Manny Pacquiaio?

[X]

​Have you isolated Manny Pacquiaio under a microscope and can you show it to me to prove your belief?

[SlimTrae]

I actually went to a couple of Felix Trinidad's fights and even shook hands with him at another event. I'd have to admit though... I didn't ask for a photo ID or a blood sample.

In other words, you want us to just believe? I knew something was shady about you! So...where's the ticket stub to (PROVE) you were there? And don't just show the ticket, where's the credit card to prove you paid for it? Don't sell us that...you paid cash, you got the serial number to prove you handed them cash? There was some counterfit money going around during Tito's rule...so how do we even know the cash you paid wasn't monopoly money?

I have never seen Manny Pacquiaio in the flesh. He could be a computer generated image on my TV really. In fact, he probably is.

Has anyone actually isolated him to prove he exists?

That's impossible! In order to prove he exists, one has to have air to breathe...can you prove that air exists? You can't! So why claim people exist period? I want you to prove to me how you know I exist...and if you can't, well then you like typing to imaginary beings....tsk...tsk...tsk...