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Well no one's stopping you, so carry on.
i just did. but i can't blame jermell, it's the first male undisputed vs undisputed fight of the four belt era & his biggest payday. i think timmy would have also taken the fight with canelo if it was offered to him
But we all know that would never happen. Tim was set to have his Canelo'ish type fight vs Charlo...biggest name, purse, all the titles etc. It was literally signed and dated before Charlo opted out. What is making this are the belts and the literal header (empty header if we're honest) of "undisputed vs undisputed". All a cash grab and have to wonder cash out for Charlo to go enjoy some more inactivity. And I'll go out on a limb and say regardless of outcome he will not be going back to 154. What's NOT making it happen is either Charlos or Canelos clear definitive dominance over the very top threats it their respected division. That's usually how these things work, sweep a division clean, collect all the trinkets, pound your chest and then go slay bigger game up North. Not here.
empty header? are both fighters not undisputed? cash grad? sure. can you blame jermell? he gets a big payday & a shot at winning undisputed in his second division, two weights above. it's a win win situation for jermell. i think you're right & i agree that i don't think jermell will be back at one fifty four. in a perfect world it would be nice to see fighters sweep a division clean (both these guys have all the trinkets) & move up. david b v david b was supposedly signed for october before david b started talk of jaime. jermell took the win win fight over the high risk less reward fight with timmy. canelo was attempting to rematch dmitry but dmitry wasn't happy with the terms, what is there for jermell at middle?
They are literally not undisputed in the eyes of many fans. They can cover themselves like cheap christmas trees in cheap trinkets all they like. One has two very live threats sitting atop his division he shows zero want or interest in. They now live in his house. The other literally opted out of a signed, made and dated mandatory defense while the promotion strung the entire fanbase along like it was being rescheduled. This is a 'work'. Obtaining the belts is the start of being undisputed, not the end all. Thats when you topple all legit comers, mandatories and defend your "undisputed". Names and shiny belts have blinded many fans as we already had super-fights right there under our noses that were denied. They've turned into some weird pseudo accountant fan base who pretend they're getting a cut ffs. It's almost embarrassing. This is gimmickry match making.
oh i thought undisputed meant there were no other champion claims, there are four recognised sanctioning body championship belts, so once you collect all, just like when there were three or two you became undisputed. in your definition of undisputed there will never be an undisputed champion because there will always be other challengers & mandatories. there have been many super-fights that were denied throughout the history of the sport. i'm not sure what pseudo accountant has to do with me. a fights been made, either watch it or don't. gimmickry match making is nothing new to boxing