How to crack a shelled opponent.

[Chris Nagel]

Good posts everyone! Hey Andre, Jesse's tapes has some good techniques that would come in handy here.

Chris did you ever see what Frazier said about Marciano ?? he said that if Ali would of done the rope a dope vs Marciano, Marciano would of broke his arms

But that tactic is actually good for fighters like Winky Wright, hit him on the arms and shoulders, if you hit him in the right place you can even give him a dead arm, i never see this tactic used anymore.

I remember Joe Frazier mention that. I think part of the success of Ali of pulling it off against Foreman is in the way that Foreman threw his punches. It would have been a different story if Joe Louis was in the ring that night instead.

I don't think it would work on Wright, for one he's not going to stand still and let you use his arms like a punching bag. But if you have an opponent that just stands in front of you coving up, and if you have more than enough stamina, then by all means work on their arms at least until something better comes along. I see it as good way to wear someone down. Imagine if the "Hispanic causing Panic" Andrada had this in his arsenal.

[ICB]

Good posts everyone! Hey Andre, Jesse's tapes has some good techniques that would come in handy here.

Chris did you ever see what Frazier said about Marciano ?? he said that if Ali would of done the rope a dope vs Marciano, Marciano would of broke his arms

But that tactic is actually good for fighters like Winky Wright, hit him on the arms and shoulders, if you hit him in the right place you can even give him a dead arm, i never see this tactic used anymore.

I remember Joe Frazier mention that. I think part of the success of Ali of pulling it off against Foreman is in the way that Foreman threw his punches. It would have been a different story if Joe Louis was in the ring that night instead.

I don't think it would work on Wright, for one he's not going to stand still and let you use his arms like a punching bag. But if you have an opponent that just stands in front of you coving up, and if you have more than enough stamina, then by all means work on their arms at least until something better comes along. I see it as good way to wear someone down. Imagine if the "Hispanic causing Panic" Andrada had this in his arsenal.

Chris i remember a fight between Roy Jones Jr vs Eric Harding where Jones kept hitting his shoulder and arm over and over again that eventually Harding had to quit. Another tactic which i love to is hit the shoulder then surprise them with a left hook under the elbow, if you watch Ricky Hatton vs Jose Luis Castillo he done the exact same thing to set up the body shot KO.

[Von Milash]

Although I still think my previous low blow suggestion is the most practical, you ca also show him angles and work the body.

you can also lull him open, invite counters, then catch him when he opens up.

[Salty]

Here's some more dirty boxing tips to help crack they shelled opponent. The one I liked the sound of if the punch to the hip, not as obvious as the groin shot but just as effective...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmtlw1N1TYQ

[Chris Nagel]

Although I still think my previous low blow suggestion is the most practical, you ca also show him angles and work the body.

you can also lull him open, invite counters, then catch him when he opens up.

Rough tactics can open a guy up, especially if they are inexperienced or not used to going up against that kind of adversity. Some fighters lose their composure if they feel that things are becoming unfair.

Have you seen the Sam Soloman vs Max Alexander on the Contender? Well it was frustrating enough going against a style like Soloman's, but he wasn't mentally prepared to handle the roughness that comes from Soloman. Soloman had that move where if you didn't tie him up, he'd break out of the weak clinch and drag a right uppercut right up your chest and into your chin. Max being the taller man tended to lean forward in a clinch which consequentally put his throat in the path of Sam's uppercut. That + an accidental headbut and more proved to be more than what Max could take. If he had trained at a place where he could spar with real professionals then maybe things would have turned out differently. This happens to a lot of fighters. You gotta be ready for unfair, no matter what sport you're playing.

Here's some more dirty boxing tips to help crack they shelled opponent. The one I liked the sound of if the punch to the hip, not as obvious as the groin shot but just as effective...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmtlw1N1TYQ

Good stuff, although I've seen it all. I did like the part where he talked about how to escape out of an armbar in a clinch. This reminds me, I have an old post spanning many pages on all dirty tricks that I've found that I took off the board a year ago. I'm considering editing it again and bringing it back up.

[Scrap]

Hit them with your knee on the inside of theirs gets a lovely reaction theyll have a look to see what happened youre in.