Ronald Wilson Reagan=Scumball

[Trainer Monkey]

The bolded part only proves what I have been saying all along. The USSR had VAST amounts of natural resources, much more than turnups, some of it was in far away locations, but they could have accessed it, like the US in Alaska, with the proper infrastructure. Again, you haven't addressed a single point I have brought up, what exactly have you "ripped down"
The 8.0 GPA I have would suggest that I have, in fact, done a pretty damn good job of studying history, but I suppose YOU'RE a much better judge of historical knowledge than a professor with a PHD, right fuckwit? The only thing that is pissing me off is your stupidity and ignorance, I honestly cannot believe that people like yourself are allowed to vote. You should have to take a goddamn test. You've yet to prove a damn things, and again, you have brought zero facts into this discussion. You have not brought up any historically relevant information, you jump from point to point like a schizophrenic with ADD. I'm still waiting for you to address the issues I brought up PAGES ago.

Name one,I mean other then a massive Natural Gas field they couldnt get to,name a single natural resource they had?
They didnt even have enough usuable land that they weren hurt by Carters Grain embargo
No Oil,no Iron,no truly fertile land,no nothing
Not even a truly homogenous people after the Mongols tore north and then West
The Chinese do okay because they have iron and coal,and cheap labor

[CFH]

Name one

One issue you have not adequately addressed? I can name several.
First, you bumbling fucking moron, you claimed that the desire for "western freedoms" led to the collapse of the USSR, which is erroneous.
After I disproved that, you said it was a desire for western products. Wrong again.
Then, you said that it was corruption which brought down the USSR.
You have not addressed that, nor have you ever given any reasons for why what you have claimed is true.
Nor have you addressed any of the points and counter-points I have brought up against you.
Here's a direct quote, from a book written by 2 PHD's, "The collapse of communism in Eastern Europe and even in the Soviet homeland might have been aniticipated... The dominant trends of the 20th century all pointed towards such an eventual collapse. Growing global interdependence meant that the Soviet bloc economies could not be kept isolated. As Stalinist-style economics failed, communism's worn out slogans could no longer rationalize mass mobilization..."
Yeltsin himself said that Russia needed, "economic shock therapy".
Like I have said over and over again, economics was the principle reason for the collapse of the USSR. I know there were some pretty big words in that quote, so I'm pretty sure you still won't understand what the fuck this is all about.
I've got to go out now, but I'll gladly continue to educate your simpleton ass later tonight.

[CFH]

Name one,I mean other then a massive Natural Gas field they couldnt get to,name a single natural resource they had?
They didnt even have enough usuable land that they weren hurt by Carters Grain embargo
No Oil,no Iron,no truly fertile land,no nothing
Not even a truly homogenous people after the Mongols tore north and then West
The Chinese do okay because they have iron and coal,and cheap labor

Ever heard of the Ural mountains? There is plenty of resources in the Urals: coal, iron, nickel, silver, gold, platinium, chromite, zircon, topaz, need I go on? Plenty of Russia is "fertile land", how else would they have been able to support a feudal-style peasant ecomonic and social system until 1917 if there was no fertile land?
You're making yourself look like a fool.

[Trainer Monkey]

Ever heard of the Ural mountains? There is plenty of resources in the Urals: coal, iron, nickel, silver, gold, platinium, chromite, zircon, topaz, need I go on? Plenty of Russia is "fertile land", how else would they have been able to support a feudal-style peasant ecomonic and social system until 1917 if there was no fertile land?
You're making yourself look like a fool.

Actually you are,there wasnt plenty
The whole thing was too stretched out to be supported,just like is happening to us right now
Empire is impossable to sustain
No most of the USSR isnt fertile land,again explain the grain embargo otherwise
Go on this should be funny
And when Im done letting you dangle on the line,Ill take a picture of some of those history books I didnt read,they shouldnt be hard to find,theyre over in my library
And theyre all very well thumbed through
Hint,hint,not only did I live through the period your trying to redefine,Im an avid fan of studying history
"Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past,are condemned to repeat them"-George Santyana
Wanna see my leather bound copy of "The Genteel Tradition At Bay"?
Never assume sahib

[Trainer Monkey]

Heres some of the History Books I dont own

Lets see,there isnt The History Of The Goths
Mother Jones The Most Dangerous Woman In America certainly isnt there
The 1925 Geological Survey of Mercer Monroe And Sumner Counties is definitly a figment of the cameras imagination
Want me to dig up some quotes randomly from my non-existant copy of Rosseau's "Discourse On Inequality"?

[CFH]

Heres some of the History Books I dont own

Lets see,there isnt The History Of The Goths
Mother Jones The Most Dangerous Woman In America certainly isnt there
The 1925 Geological Survey of Mercer Monroe And Sumner Counties is definitly a figment of the cameras imagination
Want me to dig up some quotes randomly from my non-existant copy of Rosseau's "Discourse On Inequality"?

Wow, seven books, none of which are related to the subject at hand. Seriously though, why don't we just drop this, there's no sense in continuing. Neither of us is going to convince the other of anything. I was just having some fun with you and got a bit carried away.

[Trainer Monkey]

Wow, seven books, none of which are related to the subject at hand. Seriously though, why don't we just drop this, there's no sense in continuing. Neither of us is going to convince the other of anything. I was just having some fun with you and got a bit carried away.

Awwww cmon,I could have tossed up Laughing Through The Eighties,or Bushisms(the elder not the younger)or Jim Hightower,or Molly Ivins,or The Devils Horsemen,and yes I think "The History Of Western Civilization" is indeed relevant,but I only had so much chair to work with,and so much camera range to work with,I totally missed the title of that one with the camera angle.
Care to see my collection of Russian literature,Im betting it beats 7 kinds of hell out of yours.
He swings,he misses again
You made alot of assumptions,and now you have to deal with the ass part
And yes Dissenter In A Great Society is totally relevant to the discussion
Actually now that I think about it so is the Geological survey,it shows our vastly superior wealth,oddly enough,that isnt a book,of course you wouldnt know that,its a collection of geological maps that give an overlay of the composition of the area

[CFH]

Awwww cmon,I could have tossed up Laughing Through The Eighties,or Bushisms(the elder not the younger)or Jim Hightower,or Molly Ivins,or The Devils Horsemen,and yes I think "The History Of Western Civilization" is indeed relevant,but I only had so much chair to work with,and so much camera range to work with,I totally missed the title of that one with the camera angle.
Care to see my collection of Russian literature,Im betting it beats 7 kinds of hell out of yours.
He swings,he misses again
You made alot of assumptions,and now you have to deal with the ass part
And yes Dissenter In A Great Society is totally relevant to the discussion
Actually now that I think about it so is the Geological survey,it shows our vastly superior wealth,oddly enough,that isnt a book,of course you wouldnt know that,its a collection of geological maps that give an overlay of the composition of the area

In general, I despise Russian literature, so I don't own any of it, my girlfriend loves it and I have not been able to enjoy to books she has lent me.
Just because you own some books (I didn't seriously doubt your ability to read, just your ability to think) doesn't mean you aren't an idiot.