Ronald Wilson Reagan=Scumball

[Trainer Monkey]

The fact that the U.S. was able to build a pipeline to Alaska and was further able to expand it only supports my point that because of proper funding and an established, well maintained infrastructure the US was able to exploit its natural resources, even if they were far away from its population centers. This is something the USSR was not able to do, because all their money went to their military, thanks to the actions of the Reagan administration. I don't know how many times I have made this point already, but you haven't addressed it yet.
I don't know if your punchy, senile, or just plain stupid, you come across as all three, but you still have not addressed any of the points I have brought up in regards to the USSR. First they collapsed because their people wanted freedom, then it was corruption, right dumbass?
In regards to Michael Moore, he is a documentary filmmaker, a very successful one, but he is a pristine example of how biased and just plain wrong filmmakers can be. Not once did I say you were a Michael Moore fan, however he is a completely valid example since you were the one who brought up the views of another documentary filmmaker. Again, a person whose views do not mean jack shit in this discussion. I'm sure an esteemed social historian like yourself would be aware of the close relationship between punk rock and reggae as well, so I don't think I need to address that point. I don't know much about Don Letts, but his OPINION is completely irrelevant to this discussion.
Have you ever taken a history course? Ever read any SCHOLARLY publications? Just because you believe something does not make it true. You have yet to bring A SINGLE FUCKING FACT into this discussion, nor have you adequately address any of my points, you ignorant moron. For the record, history is one of the two subjects majoring it at university. You do know what a university is, right? They're those big, shiny buildings you probably stumble past on the way to collect your social security check.
But you're a "boxing trainer" right? So we should bow before the altar of your vast and superior knowledge.
Don't bother to reply unless you are actually going to respond to one of the many points I have already made, no one needs to have any more of their time wasted by going through another of your old man rants. I'm not even going to address how laughable it is that you chose to quote a song lyrics about someone possessing a strong mind, just because you say it is so does not make it true. I mean, fuck, you check the news wires, that'll provide you with much more knowledge than an actual education.
I feel like I am arguing about the best investment strategies with a homeless person. Remember Monkey, try to respond with documented FACTS, not nonsensical ramblings.

We had the capital to build said pipeline
They didnt
We had vast coal and iron and natural gas resources to tap in to
They didnt,unless you count their vast turnip resources
You get more shrill with every post,in other words you havent made a study of history,and you "know things"and Im ripping every single one of them down for you
Keep going please,this is fun
BTW,look it up,I havent said a thing that wasnt factual,actually you probably have,and thats whats making you so pissed off

[CFH]

We had the capital to build said pipeline
They didnt
We had vast coal and iron and natural gas resources to tap in to
They didnt,unless you count their vast turnip resources
You get more shrill with every post,in other words you havent made a study of history,and you "know things"and Im ripping every single one of them down for you
Keep going please,this is fun
BTW,look it up,I havent said a thing that wasnt factual,actually you probably have,and thats whats making you so pissed off

The bolded part only proves what I have been saying all along. The USSR had VAST amounts of natural resources, much more than turnups, some of it was in far away locations, but they could have accessed it, like the US in Alaska, with the proper infrastructure. Again, you haven't addressed a single point I have brought up, what exactly have you "ripped down"
The 8.0 GPA I have would suggest that I have, in fact, done a pretty damn good job of studying history, but I suppose YOU'RE a much better judge of historical knowledge than a professor with a PHD, right fuckwit? The only thing that is pissing me off is your stupidity and ignorance, I honestly cannot believe that people like yourself are allowed to vote. You should have to take a goddamn test. You've yet to prove a damn things, and again, you have brought zero facts into this discussion. You have not brought up any historically relevant information, you jump from point to point like a schizophrenic with ADD. I'm still waiting for you to address the issues I brought up PAGES ago.

[Trainer Monkey]

The bolded part only proves what I have been saying all along. The USSR had VAST amounts of natural resources, much more than turnups, some of it was in far away locations, but they could have accessed it, like the US in Alaska, with the proper infrastructure. Again, you haven't addressed a single point I have brought up, what exactly have you "ripped down"
The 8.0 GPA I have would suggest that I have, in fact, done a pretty damn good job of studying history, but I suppose YOU'RE a much better judge of historical knowledge than a professor with a PHD, right fuckwit? The only thing that is pissing me off is your stupidity and ignorance, I honestly cannot believe that people like yourself are allowed to vote. You should have to take a goddamn test. You've yet to prove a damn things, and again, you have brought zero facts into this discussion. You have not brought up any historically relevant information, you jump from point to point like a schizophrenic with ADD. I'm still waiting for you to address the issues I brought up PAGES ago.

Name one,I mean other then a massive Natural Gas field they couldnt get to,name a single natural resource they had?
They didnt even have enough usuable land that they weren hurt by Carters Grain embargo
No Oil,no Iron,no truly fertile land,no nothing
Not even a truly homogenous people after the Mongols tore north and then West
The Chinese do okay because they have iron and coal,and cheap labor

[CFH]

Name one

One issue you have not adequately addressed? I can name several.
First, you bumbling fucking moron, you claimed that the desire for "western freedoms" led to the collapse of the USSR, which is erroneous.
After I disproved that, you said it was a desire for western products. Wrong again.
Then, you said that it was corruption which brought down the USSR.
You have not addressed that, nor have you ever given any reasons for why what you have claimed is true.
Nor have you addressed any of the points and counter-points I have brought up against you.
Here's a direct quote, from a book written by 2 PHD's, "The collapse of communism in Eastern Europe and even in the Soviet homeland might have been aniticipated... The dominant trends of the 20th century all pointed towards such an eventual collapse. Growing global interdependence meant that the Soviet bloc economies could not be kept isolated. As Stalinist-style economics failed, communism's worn out slogans could no longer rationalize mass mobilization..."
Yeltsin himself said that Russia needed, "economic shock therapy".
Like I have said over and over again, economics was the principle reason for the collapse of the USSR. I know there were some pretty big words in that quote, so I'm pretty sure you still won't understand what the fuck this is all about.
I've got to go out now, but I'll gladly continue to educate your simpleton ass later tonight.

[CFH]

Name one,I mean other then a massive Natural Gas field they couldnt get to,name a single natural resource they had?
They didnt even have enough usuable land that they weren hurt by Carters Grain embargo
No Oil,no Iron,no truly fertile land,no nothing
Not even a truly homogenous people after the Mongols tore north and then West
The Chinese do okay because they have iron and coal,and cheap labor

Ever heard of the Ural mountains? There is plenty of resources in the Urals: coal, iron, nickel, silver, gold, platinium, chromite, zircon, topaz, need I go on? Plenty of Russia is "fertile land", how else would they have been able to support a feudal-style peasant ecomonic and social system until 1917 if there was no fertile land?
You're making yourself look like a fool.

[Trainer Monkey]

Ever heard of the Ural mountains? There is plenty of resources in the Urals: coal, iron, nickel, silver, gold, platinium, chromite, zircon, topaz, need I go on? Plenty of Russia is "fertile land", how else would they have been able to support a feudal-style peasant ecomonic and social system until 1917 if there was no fertile land?
You're making yourself look like a fool.

Actually you are,there wasnt plenty
The whole thing was too stretched out to be supported,just like is happening to us right now
Empire is impossable to sustain
No most of the USSR isnt fertile land,again explain the grain embargo otherwise
Go on this should be funny
And when Im done letting you dangle on the line,Ill take a picture of some of those history books I didnt read,they shouldnt be hard to find,theyre over in my library
And theyre all very well thumbed through
Hint,hint,not only did I live through the period your trying to redefine,Im an avid fan of studying history
"Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past,are condemned to repeat them"-George Santyana
Wanna see my leather bound copy of "The Genteel Tradition At Bay"?
Never assume sahib

[Trainer Monkey]

Heres some of the History Books I dont own

Lets see,there isnt The History Of The Goths
Mother Jones The Most Dangerous Woman In America certainly isnt there
The 1925 Geological Survey of Mercer Monroe And Sumner Counties is definitly a figment of the cameras imagination
Want me to dig up some quotes randomly from my non-existant copy of Rosseau's "Discourse On Inequality"?

[CFH]

Heres some of the History Books I dont own

Lets see,there isnt The History Of The Goths
Mother Jones The Most Dangerous Woman In America certainly isnt there
The 1925 Geological Survey of Mercer Monroe And Sumner Counties is definitly a figment of the cameras imagination
Want me to dig up some quotes randomly from my non-existant copy of Rosseau's "Discourse On Inequality"?

Wow, seven books, none of which are related to the subject at hand. Seriously though, why don't we just drop this, there's no sense in continuing. Neither of us is going to convince the other of anything. I was just having some fun with you and got a bit carried away.