Castro resigns!!!!

[CFH]

Hah,you think we just walk in the door here?
If you aint dying,your waiting sahib
We cant even good info on our loved ones if we're in the waiting room
Bro,another myth,reality aint like that

Admittedly, I do not know much about the American system, but I do know the Canadian one will not be functioning for too much longer if it does not get seriously overhauled, which it almost surely never will.
If you potentially had something seriously wrong with you, lets say you needed a CAT scan, how long would you have to wait in the States?
Just for something to compare wait times with.

[RP33]

Admittedly, I do not know much about the American system, but I do know the Canadian one will not be functioning for too much longer if it does not get seriously overhauled, which it almost surely never will.
If you potentially had something seriously wrong with you, lets say you needed a CAT scan, how long would you have to wait in the States?
Just for something to compare wait times with.

Depends on your current condition.. I mean, if you're taken into the ER and they need to figure out what's wrong with you asap, then you'll get it done on the spot..

But, for example, i had recurring migraines when i was younger, and after visiting the doctor 2 or 3 times he suggested i should get one.. You get a slip of paper, and then you go to the building where they do x-rays/cat scans etc, and you get it done..

Correct me if i'm wrong, but this is how i'd go about it.. I'd go to my normal doctor, ask him if he'd recommend a cat scan, or tell him i'd like to get one just to be safe, and he'll fill out a sheet of paper saying my name, and saying what i need done, and tell me to take it to the lab where they do CAT scans.. it's really that simple.

Other things that may take longer, like an MRI or something like that, are usually scheduled within the same week.

[RP33]

Stupid question..

Does 'free healthcare' include prescription drugs?

[CFH]

Stupid question..

Does 'free healthcare' include prescription drugs?

Not here it doesn't, but a lot of employers have plans that will cover them.

[RP33]

Not here it doesn't, but a lot of employers have plans that will cover them.

just curious.. because there are a few ways to look at it..

For the everyday run of the mill cold/sinus etc problems, people would be at the doctors office holding up spots for people who are actually sick.. I think that as far as the US goes, if our healthcare BECOMES (key word) free, then it would be different if originally it was free.. Meaning, while we're alive here in the US, if it becomes free, you will have everyone saying "oh, your head hurts?.. well go check it out, it's free now".. There will be a few generations of this until people take it seriously and only go to the Doctor for real problems.. It would be like if anything else that we normally paid for became free.. we'd overuse it..



Anyway, for the above stated illnesses it would really suck due to time waiting to see a doctor and such.. But as far as terminal illnesses and such go, it would be great.. Everyone would be able to have a fair chance at staying alive and getting the care they needed.. My sister's friend, has a son who is something like 1 year old and he has some sort of cancer in his eye, and the Co-Pay for his medicine is upwards of $500.. just the co-pay, the insurance covers the rest.. Thankfully she has a lot of money (she runs a daycare) so she is able to afford this medication.. But a middle class type of income would struggle..

[Trainer Monkey]

Not here it doesn't, but a lot of employers have plans that will cover them.

Not here it doesnt

[Kirkland Laing]

Stupid question..

Does 'free healthcare' include prescription drugs?

Pretty much. You may have to pay a few pounds per prescription if you're employed but under 16/over 65/unemployed it's free. Some prescriptions in the States can cost a couple of hundred dollars a month, right?

[CFH]

Depends on your current condition.. I mean, if you're taken into the ER and they need to figure out what's wrong with you asap, then you'll get it done on the spot..

But, for example, i had recurring migraines when i was younger, and after visiting the doctor 2 or 3 times he suggested i should get one.. You get a slip of paper, and then you go to the building where they do x-rays/cat scans etc, and you get it done..

Correct me if i'm wrong, but this is how i'd go about it.. I'd go to my normal doctor, ask him if he'd recommend a cat scan, or tell him i'd like to get one just to be safe, and he'll fill out a sheet of paper saying my name, and saying what i need done, and tell me to take it to the lab where they do CAT scans.. it's really that simple.

Other things that may take longer, like an MRI or something like that, are usually scheduled within the same week.

I was asking about CAT scans because I'm supposed to go and get one. It most likely is not serious, but there is a chance that I might have some sort of neurological problem, so my doctor wants to make sure. I'll have to wait for at least 2 months to get it done, and that's a best case senario, so I was just curious how long you guys would have to wait because TM said that there were wait times down there as well.

[RP33]

I was asking about CAT scans because I'm supposed to go and get one. It most likely is not serious, but there is a chance that I might have some sort of neurological problem, so my doctor wants to make sure. I'll have to wait for at least 2 months to get it done, and that's a best case senario, so I was just curious how long you guys would have to wait because TM said that there were wait times down there as well.

Yeah, again, it depends on your condition normally.. I live in a very densely populated area here, so i think that if there was someone who could answer the question, it would probably be myself.. If i woke up tomorrow morning, and wanted a CAT scan done, i'd call my doctor, and they'd schedule me probably by the end of the week to see me, considering it's not considered a "sick visit".. If it was a "sick visit", then if i call early enough in the day when they first open, I'd normally be able to get in by the end of the day.. So anyway, i get the appointment (the non-sick visit) by the end of the week, lets say friday.. I go in, tell him i want a CAT scan, if he agrees, then he writes me out a sheet and with something like a CAT scan, it doesn't take long so i can usually just go at my earliest convenience.. i could wait a few weeks if i wanted, or i could go on my way home..

Not the long ago, i broke my toe, and the Doctor wanted me to get an x-ray just to make sure that there were no problem with the joints or something because it could require surgery if that were the case or something.. so he wrote me out a sheet saying which toe on which foot i needed x-ray'd and then i drove down the street to the lab, and they did it for me on the spot..

[Trainer Monkey]

I was asking about CAT scans because I'm supposed to go and get one. It most likely is not serious, but there is a chance that I might have some sort of neurological problem, so my doctor wants to make sure. I'll have to wait for at least 2 months to get it done, and that's a best case senario, so I was just curious how long you guys would have to wait because TM said that there were wait times down there as well.

Bro,honest injun
My last trip to the emergency room.My wife works for one of the major insuarance providers at the time.
I have an infected finger,but I avoided the medic because,we really couldnt afford the co-pay
It gets violently infected to the point,I wake up at 5AM,and drive myself to the emergency room in tears,Im literally crying the whole way
Now this is with insurance
Im just sitting there in the waiting room for over an hour holding my finger and leaking from the eyes
And it still cost a grand for this wonderful American style treatment,and thats IF you have insurance,I got looked at by the Doctors for a whopping 10 minutes tops
You want that in Canada,watch your ass,because if it gets sick,your in deep s

[RP33]

Bro,honest injun
My last trip to the emergency room.My wife works for one of the major insuarance providers at the time.
I have an infected finger,but I avoided the medic because,we really couldnt afford the co-pay
It gets violently infected to the point,I wake up at 5AM,and drive myself to the emergency room in tears,Im literally crying the whole way
Now this is with insurance
Im just sitting there in the waiting room for over an hour holding my finger and leaking from the eyes
And it still cost a grand for this wonderful American style treatment,and thats IF you have insurance,I got looked at by the Doctors for a whopping 10 minutes tops
You want that in Canada,watch your ass,because if it gets sick,your in deep s

Trainer Monkey.. your CO PAY cost $1000?

That is unheard of..

My ER co-pay is $100 and that is the highest it has ever been.. If that is your co-pay then i suggest you get a new plan or something.. Luckily I am still under my parents plan because i'm under 25, and still a student, but if i got health insurance at my job the ER co-pay would be the same.. But the others would be more expensive, hence staying with my parents plan.. But, the point is if you got a minimum wage part time job that offered part-time benefits for employees, you'd do EXTREMELY better than $1000 for an ER visit..

Also, not taking a shot at you or anything, but.. it's not the ER's fault that the doctor(s) have other patients to see.. you were the one who waited so long to get it checked out, so you can't really factor that into the argument of dissing healthcare..

I was having an anxiety issue and was having problems breathing, and i told them that when i signed in at the ER, and they took me right away due to priority.... I probably went ahead of 5-6 people in the waiting room her were probably there because they didn't feel well or something to that extent that was not as serious..

[Trainer Monkey]

Trainer Monkey.. your CO PAY cost $1000?

That is unheard of..

My ER co-pay is $100 and that is the highest it has ever been.. If that is your co-pay then i suggest you get a new plan or something.. Luckily I am still under my parents plan because i'm under 25, and still a student, but if i got health insurance at my job the ER co-pay would be the same.. But the others would be more expensive, hence staying with my parents plan.. But, the point is if you got a minimum wage part time job that offered part-time benefits for employees, you'd do EXTREMELY better than $1000 for an ER visit..

Also, not taking a shot at you or anything, but.. it's not the ER's fault that the doctor(s) have other patients to see.. you were the one who waited so long to get it checked out, so you can't really factor that into the argument of dissing healthcare..

I was having an anxiety issue and was having problems breathing, and i told them that when i signed in at the ER, and they took me right away due to priority.... I probably went ahead of 5-6 people in the waiting room her were probably there because they didn't feel well or something to that extent that was not as serious..

There is this thing that is getting more and prevelant called "consumer driven health care"(a more Orwellian bit of doublespeak would be hard to imagine)
It more or less translates to this,if your going to get sick,be real sick,cause they aint covering butkiss under 2500