How good does Cotto's resume look now?

[Galaxy]

I don't think it's as stellar at all.

I think history will be kind to Miguel. A journeyman Judah and a Mosley in the autumn of his days are great names...but not neccessarily great wins.

Whilst I don't think the jury is out on Miguel anymore...he's still in need of a career defining fight isn't he?

I agree steelie, although Cotto's record is solid it is also misleading. He has never fought the #1 ranked guy in a division, nor has he dethroned a Ring champion.

He is indeed in waiting for a career defining fight

[Steelie]

I think he's being expertly managed, brilliantly, in fact.

that said, I can't say I'm massively exited by the prospect of Gomez or Mayorga.

Perhaps he's just biding his time whilst the Mayweather/De La Hoya merry-go-round runs it's course...who knows.................suffice to say he's arrived in a division at a time when it seems to have been almost hijacked by Floyd Mayweather.

I mean, there are big fights at 147 but somehow they just don't have the same lustre if Mayweather isn't involved. It's like the guys are fighting for 2nd place...and Miguels star won't shine as brightly as perhaps it should, till he gets his shot.

[Galaxy]

I think he's being expertly managed, brilliantly, in fact.

that said, I can't say I'm massively exited by the prospect of Gomez or Mayorga.

Perhaps he's just biding his time whilst the Mayweather/De La Hoya merry-go-round runs it's course...who knows.................suffice to say he's arrived in a division at a time when it seems to have been almost hijacked by Floyd Mayweather.

I mean, there are big fights at 147 but somehow they just don't have the same lustre if Mayweather isn't involved. It's like the guys are fighting for 2nd place...and Miguels star won't shine as brightly as perhaps it should, till he gets his shot.

I think Cotto should push for the winner of Margarito/ Cintron instead of Mayorga. So in other words Margarito!

I really doubt Mayorga can make it down to 147 now without weakening himself.

[CutMeMick]

I know I'm gonna sound like a broken record here BUUUUT
I remember the days when people were saying Cotto wouldn't amount to anything....
Hes too robotical, hes 1 dimensional, he couldn't carry Zab Judahs jock strap etc. etc.

I remember this very clearly when I said "Cottos young and has a great mindset. He has room to improve and he will"
I was laughed I was told there was no way Cotto would improve. He fights 1 way and 1 way only. With fighters like Zab, Margarito, Spinks, Vernon, Mayorga etc. etc. he would never be able to improve....


I gotta say it feels great to have seen Cotto go from prospect, to contender, to World Champion and hopefully he can become an ATG.

Cottos one of my very 1st fighters I've seen go full circle and I'm proud to say I've been there from very early on. Kinda like some of you guys who saw Tyson from the start, or Lennox from day 1 or Eubank.

[Galaxy]

I know I'm gonna sound like a broken record here BUUUUT
I remember the days when people were saying Cotto wouldn't amount to anything....
Hes too robotical, hes 1 dimensional, he couldn't carry Zab Judahs jock strap etc. etc.

I remember this very clearly when I said "Cottos young and has a great mindset. He has room to improve and he will"
I was laughed I was told there was no way Cotto would improve. He fights 1 way and 1 way only. With fighters like Zab, Margarito, Spinks, Vernon, Mayorga etc. etc. he would never be able to improve....


I gotta say it feels great to have seen Cotto go from prospect, to contender, to World Champion and hopefully he can become an ATG.

Cottos one of my very 1st fighters I've seen go full circle and I'm proud to say I've been there from very early on. Kinda like some of you guys who saw Tyson from the start, or Lennox from day 1 or Eubank.

I was not one of those guys Mick, I always thought Cotto would do well. He always seemed very professional & light years ahead mentally... if you get what I mean.

The only thing I don't agree with in your post is the world champion part. He has not achieved that yet in my eyes. He is only a belt holder. But there are opportunities there for Cotto the win World Championships & become an ATG

[Taeth]

He has a great list, just by staying undefeated fighting all those guys make him at least a hall of famer IMO, especially considering who has made it in.

[CutMeMick]

I was not one of those guys Mick, I always thought Cotto would do well. He always seemed very professional & light years ahead mentally... if you get what I mean.

The only thing I don't agree with in your post is the world champion part. He has not achieved that yet in my eyes. He is only a belt holder. But there are opportunities there for Cotto the win World Championships & become an ATG

Right, title holder/title champion.
I consider him a World Champion.
If you notice when he beat SSM, he (SSM) was the WBC Interim champ. this means that PBF opted to fight Hatton and thus he didn't fight SSM.
So in part you can say he also holds a part of the WBC strap with PBF.
I don't like getting too into the political part of the sport cause with every little thing you'll open up a whole nother can of worms....
Be as it may Cottos argueably #1 in the top 5 Welters and is also Ring Mag. top 10 which speaks volumes.

I sent some Rep. your way for always bringing up a good talk....

[Puya]

Cotto when he wins Gomez he will fight the winner of Margarito vs Cintron.

[Galaxy]

Right, title holder/title champion.
I consider him a World Champion.
If you notice when he beat SSM, he (SSM) was the WBC Interim champ. this means that PBF opted to fight Hatton and thus he didn't fight SSM.
So in part you can say he also holds a part of the WBC strap with PBF.
I don't like getting too into the political part of the sport cause with every little thing you'll open up a whole nother can of worms....
Be as it may Cottos argueably #1 in the top 5 Welters and is also Ring Mag. top 10 which speaks volumes.

I sent some Rep. your way for always bringing up a good talk....

Yeah bro #1 WW & #7 P4P by Ring mag & you know those are the only rankings I recognize! So IMO Cotto holds essentially a part of nothing!!!

But you gotta beat the man to be the man!

As for Floyd/ Hatton it was the WW champ vs the Jr.W champ & IMO that was a better match-up than facing the #3 WW in Mosley... although I would have loved to have seen Floyd in with Shane!

For a young fighter even going back to when he 1st turned pro Cotto was such a serious young man. I admired that & always thought his determination would take him far!

[The Boxer]

I was never a big cotto fan and i'm still not that big a fan but he continues to earn my respect everytime he steps into the ring. Everytime i said he would lose he has won. i still think that Chop Chop might would have beat him had it not been for that gay ass ref. If he was going to stop the fight he should have stop when cotto was hurt. anyway that was like 3 or 4 years ago. anyway have much respect for cotto. he boxes very well. he not a slick boxer so sometimes people overlook his boxing skills but he's good.

Fuck DLH PBF II bring on PBF Cotto

[The Boxer]

also he fights often. thats important to me.

[Rican]

I know I'm gonna sound like a broken record here BUUUUT
I remember the days when people were saying Cotto wouldn't amount to anything....
Hes too robotical, hes 1 dimensional, he couldn't carry Zab Judahs jock strap etc. etc.

I remember this very clearly when I said "Cottos young and has a great mindset. He has room to improve and he will"
I was laughed I was told there was no way Cotto would improve. He fights 1 way and 1 way only. With fighters like Zab, Margarito, Spinks, Vernon, Mayorga etc. etc. he would never be able to improve....


I gotta say it feels great to have seen Cotto go from prospect, to contender, to World Champion and hopefully he can become an ATG.

Cottos one of my very 1st fighters I've seen go full circle and I'm proud to say I've been there from very early on. Kinda like some of you guys who saw Tyson from the start, or Lennox from day 1 or Eubank.

Mick, those who said those things about Cotto didn't see his early career as you and I did. If they did, they would have noticed that those boxing skills he showed against Mosley were there from the beginning of his career. The problem was, Cotto went through a stage, when, because of his youth, he started believing the hype about himself, and started going into the ring with strictly a seek and destroy mindset. That's why veterans like Corley and solid punchers like Torres were able to give Cotto a run for his money, simply because Cotto got away from the excellent boxing skills he has. Those experiences have served him well, as you can see in the current Cotto.

[The Rookie Fan]

Hey guys, I'm like mick and Rican in a way. I too started to see Cotto from early in his career. After Tito lossed, he was who everyone was talking about here at PR. There was a small buzz going around if you know what I mean. Everywhere you went you heard people talk "You gotta check this guy Cotto out, he's pretty damn good"

However, I was not totally sold on him at first. It took some time for me. But I have become a huge fan now and I think by the end of the year he'll be ready for Floyd. Whether he wins or not is another story, but he'll be ready and will make it a hell of a fight.

It is true that he has yet to dethrone a champion. It is true that Judah and Mosley were passed it and that they were his two biggest wins. But you also have to take into account that he beat 3 undefeated young fighters who shortly after went on to become champions themselves. He has also fought all types of fighters. Come forward fighters, hard hitters, swarmers, fast, slow, slicksters, boxers, rightys, leftys. He has fought them all and won.

[El Gamo]

Cotto has a tremendous record and his wins look even more impressive when those guys(Torres/Paulie/Quintana) go on to become world champs after Cotto destroyed them.

To say his career has been expertly handled is rather pathetic. Lots of people chose Cotto to lose to Mosley,Paulie and Quintana. And his resume is similar to Mayweather's at 140 and better than Mayweather's at 147, so saying things like that don't really have any basis on fact.

Yeah,he hasn't dethroned a RING champ yet,but at 140 that was Hatton and that fight never came to fruition and 147,Mayweather,we all know the score there,,Floyd has shown no interest(so far) in fighting legit WW.I mean I saw Zab being called a journeymen but that's the best "Legit" ww on Floyd's record so......?

The fact that Cotto is young and has a unification title match possible later this year with the Tony v Cintron winner will jsut raise his status further and re-iterate the point that he has the best resume at 147 BY FAR in comparison to the RING champ Floyd.

[brucelee]

I know I'm gonna sound like a broken record here BUUUUT
I remember the days when people were saying Cotto wouldn't amount to anything....
Hes too robotical, hes 1 dimensional, he couldn't carry Zab Judahs jock strap etc. etc.

I remember this very clearly when I said "Cottos young and has a great mindset. He has room to improve and he will"
I was laughed I was told there was no way Cotto would improve. He fights 1 way and 1 way only. With fighters like Zab, Margarito, Spinks, Vernon, Mayorga etc. etc. he would never be able to improve....


I gotta say it feels great to have seen Cotto go from prospect, to contender, to World Champion and hopefully he can become an ATG.

Cottos one of my very 1st fighters I've seen go full circle and I'm proud to say I've been there from very early on. Kinda like some of you guys who saw Tyson from the start, or Lennox from day 1 or Eubank.

I can understand what you mean cutmemick. I felt the same way with Pacquaio. I have seen him fight in his early days when he was still fighting in the Philippines with local pros. The first time I saw him, I felt that Pacquaio has a long way to go. People were laughing at his style. It was really awkward. But you'd feel the power. It was really an extraordinary power that I felt with him..... and I was not wrong.

The reason why I would defend him anytime......