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    Default Re: The Cotto vs. Mayweather saga explained to the haters.

    I give Mayweather the benefit of the doubt that he will fight Cotto in 2009. If not than maybe there is some truth to all this ducking talk.

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    Default Re: The Cotto vs. Mayweather saga explained to the haters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I give Mayweather the benefit of the doubt that he will fight Cotto in 2009. If not than maybe there is some truth to all this ducking talk.
    I'm in the same boat as you VD. I didn't think Floyd would ever fight Ricky but it came off. Floyd seems to be about the master build up. Its his way of business as he sees it as the best way to make the most money. However, if it doesn't happen in 2009 then I would suggest Cotto is being ducked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I give Mayweather the benefit of the doubt that he will fight Cotto in 2009. If not than maybe there is some truth to all this ducking talk.
    I agree it's way too soon to say that PBF is ducking or is afraid of Cotto. The only thing Mayweather is afraid of is being poor.

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    Great post, Frozen! Bunch of other people (me included) have been saying similar things in a variety of different threads, but you put it out there clearly, accurately, and created a thread that needed put out there. I don't know how anybody can argue with this. We've seen the way Floyd likes to build the mega-fight, and I'm sure that's exactly what is happening now.

    There is nobody who would rather see Cotto beat up Mayweather than me, except maybe Danny G and Puya, but I'm willing to wait for this fight to happen in 2009. It will be just that more exciting when it happens. I'm not sure why Floyd bothers to build it up anymore, because he's got more money than he will every need, but it's just a different mentality for professional athletes. No amount of money seems to be enough.

    All Cotto needs to do is live up to his end and take care of the Margo/Cintron winner. Honestly, I think some people are afraid that Cotto will lose to Tony and the opportunity will disappear. I believe in Cotto and I'm willing to wait. There are enough great fights in 2008 that I can wait until 2009.

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    Default Re: The Cotto vs. Mayweather saga explained to the haters.

    that is unless forbes beats Oscar and Gomez beats Cotto

    Who's up for Mayweather vs Forbes with both mayweathers training against each other!!! Thats a ppv seller
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    The reason Arum is putting Cotto vs the winner of Margarito-Cintron is the fact it's pretty obvious that Floyd wants no part of Cotto at this point. Floyd is going to fight the big money pay day against ole man De La Hoya. But if he was not doing this I'm sure they'd be trying to put Cotto vs Floyd. The major stumbling block with Cotto vs Floyd happening is this lawsuit Floyd has recently filed aginst Top Rank. I just don't see Floyd fighting in a fight in which Arum is involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the wiz View Post
    The reason Arum is putting Cotto vs the winner of Margarito-Cintron is the fact it's pretty obvious that Floyd wants no part of Cotto at this point. Floyd is going to fight the big money pay day against ole man De La Hoya. But if he was not doing this I'm sure they'd be trying to put Cotto vs Floyd. The major stumbling block with Cotto vs Floyd happening is this lawsuit Floyd has recently filed aginst Top Rank. I just don't see Floyd fighting in a fight in which Arum is involved.

    Perhaps you should read the interview on boxingtalk.com first before making statements like that. Arum has never been shy about saying that Floyd is ducking his guys, but he doesn't even mention Floyd in the interview.

    What Arum wants is a Margarito vs. Cotto unification match because they are both Top Rank fighters, and he can cash out on Margarito now.

    As for your "Old Man Delahoya," statement, you do realize that Delahoya is younger than Mosley, right? So using that same logic, Cotto's best wins came against a post Floyd Mayweather, post Carlos Baldomir, Zab Judah and an Old Man Mosley. Don't forget that Delahoya was coming off of a brutal KO of Ricardo Mayorga and Mayweather MOVED UP IN WEIGHT to fight Delahoya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by the wiz View Post
    The reason Arum is putting Cotto vs the winner of Margarito-Cintron is the fact it's pretty obvious that Floyd wants no part of Cotto at this point. Floyd is going to fight the big money pay day against ole man De La Hoya. But if he was not doing this I'm sure they'd be trying to put Cotto vs Floyd. The major stumbling block with Cotto vs Floyd happening is this lawsuit Floyd has recently filed aginst Top Rank. I just don't see Floyd fighting in a fight in which Arum is involved.

    Perhaps you should read the interview on boxingtalk.com first before making statements like that. Arum has never been shy about saying that Floyd is ducking his guys, but he doesn't even mention Floyd in the interview.

    What Arum wants is a Margarito vs. Cotto unification match because they are both Top Rank fighters, and he can cash out on Margarito now.

    As for your "Old Man Delahoya," statement, you do realize that Delahoya is younger than Mosley, right? So using that same logic, Cotto's best wins came against a post Floyd Mayweather, post Carlos Baldomir, Zab Judah and an Old Man Mosley. Don't forget that Delahoya was coming off of a brutal KO of Ricardo Mayorga and Mayweather MOVED UP IN WEIGHT to fight Delahoya.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Floyd sated many times that he doesn't want to fight Cotto? I'm pretty sure he's said that Cotto isn't at his stature at this point and until he's at the pay per view level of Floyd he won't be fighting him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by the wiz View Post
    The reason Arum is putting Cotto vs the winner of Margarito-Cintron is the fact it's pretty obvious that Floyd wants no part of Cotto at this point. Floyd is going to fight the big money pay day against ole man De La Hoya. But if he was not doing this I'm sure they'd be trying to put Cotto vs Floyd. The major stumbling block with Cotto vs Floyd happening is this lawsuit Floyd has recently filed aginst Top Rank. I just don't see Floyd fighting in a fight in which Arum is involved.

    Perhaps you should read the interview on boxingtalk.com first before making statements like that. Arum has never been shy about saying that Floyd is ducking his guys, but he doesn't even mention Floyd in the interview.

    What Arum wants is a Margarito vs. Cotto unification match because they are both Top Rank fighters, and he can cash out on Margarito now.

    As for your "Old Man Delahoya," statement, you do realize that Delahoya is younger than Mosley, right? So using that same logic, Cotto's best wins came against a post Floyd Mayweather, post Carlos Baldomir, Zab Judah and an Old Man Mosley. Don't forget that Delahoya was coming off of a brutal KO of Ricardo Mayorga and Mayweather MOVED UP IN WEIGHT to fight Delahoya.

    I still pick Mosley to beat de La Hoya to beat Oscar any day no matter his age Mosley physical condition if far superior than Oscar even if Oscar is younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Great post, Frozen! Bunch of other people (me included) have been saying similar things in a variety of different threads, but you put it out there clearly, accurately, and created a thread that needed put out there. I don't know how anybody can argue with this. We've seen the way Floyd likes to build the mega-fight, and I'm sure that's exactly what is happening now.

    There is nobody who would rather see Cotto beat up Mayweather than me, except maybe Danny G and Puya, but I'm willing to wait for this fight to happen in 2009. It will be just that more exciting when it happens. I'm not sure why Floyd bothers to build it up anymore, because he's got more money than he will every need, but it's just a different mentality for professional athletes. No amount of money seems to be enough.

    All Cotto needs to do is live up to his end and take care of the Margo/Cintron winner. Honestly, I think some people are afraid that Cotto will lose to Tony and the opportunity will disappear. I believe in Cotto and I'm willing to wait. There are enough great fights in 2008 that I can wait until 2009.
    LOL. You are so right why loose to Cotto and earn some $$ when he can still loose to Cotto and earn more $$ doing it.

    Not But seriously I'm not picking a winner both are great talents but as a boxing fan I just want to see the fight. I just really don't care about build ups and all that crap but I undersand they need that to earn more $$$$. Do your thing Floyd but promise me you will fight Cotto in 2009
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I give Mayweather the benefit of the doubt that he will fight Cotto in 2009. If not than maybe there is some truth to all this ducking talk.


    I'll be the first one to admit it, IF Cotto doesn't lose first.

    We remember what happened with the whole "Mayweather is ducking Margarito," nonsense.........
    That whole theory lost a lot of credibility after Paul Williams beat Margarito.

    And more recently, people were starting up with the "Mayweather is ducking Paul Williams," BS. Funny how we don't hear that too much on this forum these days.

    But, I do think that Cotto is the real deal and I don't see him having too much of a problem disposing of Gomez and Margarito/Cintron. I've been wrong before though (Paul Williams)

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    Nice Thread Frozen! I agree with everything you said. This ducking talk is getting a little tiring. This fight is a must & will eventually come together. Then we can see who laughing at the end!
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    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I give Mayweather the benefit of the doubt that he will fight Cotto in 2009. If not than maybe there is some truth to all this ducking talk.


    I'll be the first one to admit it, IF Cotto doesn't lose first.

    We remember what happened with the whole "Mayweather is ducking Margarito," nonsense.........
    That whole theory lost a lot of credibility after Paul Williams beat Margarito.

    And more recently, people were starting up with the "Mayweather is ducking Paul Williams," BS. Funny how we don't hear that too much on this forum these days.

    But, I do think that Cotto is the real deal and I don't see him having too much of a problem disposing of Gomez and Margarito/Cintron. I've been wrong before though (Paul Williams)
    The reason Cotto's schedule is set for most of this year is because he couldn't get Mayweather to step in the ring with him. Thus, why wait for someone who would rather bore fans with a rematch with Oscar than excite fans with a fight with Cotto? Also, Cotto is fighting the much harder/riskier competition for less money as opposed to Floyd, who is fighting the less riskier, higher reward fights. One Cotto loss by split decision or close unanimous decision would make Floyd and his fans say: "Told You so!" Thank God that Cotto takes his fights seriously and will prepare for every fight so as not to mess up his opportunity against Floyd. One Cotto loss shouldn't ruin his chances against Floyd. I mean, look at all the losses Floyd's last opponents have had. Floyd will use that one loss as an excuse not to get in the ring with Cotto, but he didn't use it against any of his past opponents.

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    Default Re: The Cotto vs. Mayweather saga explained to the haters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I give Mayweather the benefit of the doubt that he will fight Cotto in 2009. If not than maybe there is some truth to all this ducking talk.


    I'll be the first one to admit it, IF Cotto doesn't lose first.

    We remember what happened with the whole "Mayweather is ducking Margarito," nonsense.........
    That whole theory lost a lot of credibility after Paul Williams beat Margarito.

    And more recently, people were starting up with the "Mayweather is ducking Paul Williams," BS. Funny how we don't hear that too much on this forum these days.

    But, I do think that Cotto is the real deal and I don't see him having too much of a problem disposing of Gomez and Margarito/Cintron. I've been wrong before though (Paul Williams)
    The reason Cotto's schedule is set for most of this year is because he couldn't get Mayweather to step in the ring with him. Thus, why wait for someone who would rather bore fans with a rematch with Oscar than excite fans with a fight with Cotto? Also, Cotto is fighting the much harder/riskier competition for less money as opposed to Floyd, who is fighting the less riskier, higher reward fights. One Cotto loss by split decision or close unanimous decision would make Floyd and his fans say: "Told You so!" Thank God that Cotto takes his fights seriously and will prepare for every fight so as not to mess up his opportunity against Floyd. One Cotto loss shouldn't ruin his chances against Floyd. I mean, look at all the losses Floyd's last opponents have had. Floyd will use that one loss as an excuse not to get in the ring with Cotto, but he didn't use it against any of his past opponents.
    Hey Rican I'm really completely agree in all what you had been saying.....
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