The Cotto vs. Mayweather saga explained to the haters.

[the wiz]

To all the Floyd lovers that for some reason think Floyd isn't ducking Cotto defend this one, this is in an excerpt from an article.....

Mayweather, 39-0 with 25 knockouts in the boxing ring, stopped England's Ricky Hatton in the 10th round last December to keep his crown but resists the idea to fight rival champions such as undefeated Miguel Cotto, calling him one-dimensional and talking down his promoter, Bob Arum.

"I'm not going to fight those guys and make them big. They fight Floyd Mayweather that makes them big. I'm not going to let no more fighters piggyback on me," Mayweather said.

"If Oscar de la Hoya wants one more chance to get his ass kicked, we can make it happen. If Ricky Hatton wants one more chance to get his ass kicked, we can make it happen."



For one, what fighters have piggybacked Floyd and made themselves big by fighting Floyd, this guy is delusional!!! Nice to see he's ready to fight guys he's already beaten.

Full article below...

AFP: Mayweather to drop uncle as trainer if he stays with Forbes

[Mar]

...every fighter who hasn't already been beaten by floyd will claim he's ducking them, that will never change. He can fight cotto tommorow and the next guy will jump right in his place with the same silly claims the next day, one week it's oscar, the next hatton, now it's cotto geeeez the guy would have to fight every weekend to keep people happy, how badly people want to see him loose (reguardless of who it is) is funny. They build up every so called floyd slayer the same way, and the result is always the same.

[SigmaMu]

...every fighter who hasn't already been beaten by floyd will claim he's ducking them, that will never change.

Floyd has not stood still long enough in any division for anyone to make that claim and it looks as though he will stay somewhere between 147 to 154. He has yet to unify anything other than his two lips on ODLH's nuts. Floyd has ducked a lot of fighters while moving up.

He can fight cotto tommorow

He should but he wont.

and the next guy will jump right in his place with the same silly claims the next day,

When you make claims about how great you are and you also have people who will believe these claims (his little fans) Fighters will try to call him out becuase fighters want to fight the best.

one week it's oscar,

It was never Oscar who wanted to fight PBF. Don't ever get this twisted. Oscar is every fighters dream and their HUGE MEAL ticket. Floyd could not attrack flies if he was covered in shit and sprinkled with powdered sugar. Floyd already faced Oscar, why fight him again? Didn't he beat him? They should have never given floyd the split decision. To be the champ, you have to BEAT the champ and Floyd did not beat Oscar. I know it sounds twisted but the truth is Floyd got another gift like he did against Castillo.

the next hatton, now it's cotto geeeez the guy would have to fight every weekend to keep people happy, how badly people want to see him loose (reguardless of who it is) is funny. They build up every so called floyd slayer the same way, and the result is always the same.

Floyd has a bullseye on his back. Floyd has not faught a slayer in a very long time. Name the slayers Floyd has faced? You will have to go back a few years wont you.?

[bzkfn]

Danny you are relentless...

The thing is though, you do make some great points. There are alot of people on here loving Floyd claiming that this fight doesn't have to happen. I'm not gunna say its ducking yet because I believe that logic will prevail in the end, just like it did with the Hatton fight.

However, Cotto is by far the most dangerous threat to Mayweather and I'm sure that while he has his schedule wrapped up for the rest of the year, he drop everything if Floyd said yes to the fight. There is no real reason for the fight not to happen this year, but its not in the works so I have accepted it for now.

Mar, you have said that fans line people up to beat Floyd and this will always happen. You're right in some sense as I always felt the Margo ducking was a load of crap as Margo had done nothing to make me think the fight would go any other way than a win for Floyd, and I didn't think he deserved the fight. But with Cotto it is very different. He has paid his dues. He is undefeated. He is a natural Welter, a fellow champion and is looking better with every fight. You'll find that this is the most anticipated fight on the planet right now, and opinion to who would win is divided. It would make soooooooooo much money now.

For now though, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. At the moment I believe what it comes down to is that Floyd cares more about making money than giving the fans the fight they want. If Cotto offers more money than anything else, I think he'll take the fight. It's all about the most money for the least risk.

[SweetPea]

For about the 3 billionth time....

If Floyd and Cotto are both still undefeated at the end of 2008, and Floyd doesn't make Cotto his first opponent of 2009, then criticize Floyd for ducking Cotto all you want. Fill the entire message board with anti-Floyd threads for all I care. You won't hear one bit of complaining from myself and many other Floyd fans, because the criticism will be justified.

But not now. Right now in March 2008, all this stuff is premature.

[Snakey]

Its just hilarious how hatton was definately gonna be the guy to take floyd down and when he got knocked the fuck out, cotto is now the guy. Before then it was margarito and paul williams, gatti and dela hoya. See a pattern?

[SigmaMu]

Its just hilarious how hatton was definately gonna be the guy to take floyd down and when he got knocked the fuck out, cotto is now the guy. Before then it was margarito and paul williams, gatti and dela hoya. See a pattern?

You must live in a different world then the rest of us because those of us who have been paying attention, witnessed what Hatton was capeable of doing as a welter weight and that was SHIT. He got chased back down to the junior welter weight didnt he? And this is before PBF, so what the hell are you talking about?

A couple of things about that fight still stand out. Joe Cortez helping Floyd along, Hatton getting frustrated, all the cheating Floyd had to do to win and the one dimmensional fighter we saw in Hatton. This Hatton we saw against Floyd can be beat by top 10 Welter Weight and now Floyd wants to fight him again? LMAO! I would still rather see a Williams or a Margarito vs PBF than I would see a ODLH or Hatton/PBF again.

Let's not cover this up by not mentioning Cotto. Why did you leave Cotto's name out of this? Interesting.

[C-Lo]

I don't think Floyd is ducking Cotto at all. Considering Floyd and Cotto continue to win their fights, this fight WILL happen. I never expected it to happen in 2008 but definitely in 2009.

For history's sake, fights that pop in my head that are in the same category are Tyson vs Holyfield, Leonard vs Hagler, Pacuquiao vs Marquez II. Sure it would be awesome to watch them fight as soon as it's desired, but, delaying a fight increases the hype and tension (not to mention, bigger paydays).

I agree with the most of you in saying that if Floyd doesn't vocally state he wants Cotto or nothing is to happen by 2009, then it's safe to say Floyd MIGHT be ducking Cotto. But I think Floyd is just waiting for it to be a money making machine.

[Bx730NY]

...every fighter who hasn't already been beaten by floyd will claim he's ducking them, that will never change. He can fight cotto tommorow and the next guy will jump right in his place with the same silly claims the next day, one week it's oscar, the next hatton, now it's cotto geeeez the guy would have to fight every weekend to keep people happy, how badly people want to see him loose (reguardless of who it is) is funny. They build up every so called floyd slayer the same way, and the result is always the same.

You act like floyd is a god or something. Can't believe you guys get fooled so easily by such a transparent act. Cotto would be his toughest challenge to date and would actually have a good chance to beat him come fight night.

It seems that you guys are impressed by his big talk and wins over guys that shouldn't even be in the ring with him.

I've been watching boxing for a long time and never seen such blatant ducking or a guy get so much credit for just talking a good game and not doing anything to really prove it.

I'll give you guys a good example: It's like Notre Dame college football team, they have been such a popular team for such a long time. If they are the 20Th ranked team in the nation and your team beats them, how can your team call themselves national champs regardless of how much money the networks made?

Answer: they can't.

Fight the best and beat the best and then you can start talking about yourself as the best or possibly all time great.

[SweetPea]

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I've been watching boxing for a long time and never seen such blatant ducking or a guy get so much credit for just talking a good game and not doing anything to really prove it.

You must have never followed Prince Hamed's career then.

[Bx730NY]

[QUOTE=SweetPea;484254]

I've been watching boxing for a long time and never seen such blatant ducking or a guy get so much credit for just talking a good game and not doing anything to really prove it.

You must have never followed Prince Hamed's career then.

Good point

[Kel]

To all the Floyd lovers that for some reason think Floyd isn't ducking Cotto defend this one, this is in an excerpt from an article.....

Mayweather, 39-0 with 25 knockouts in the boxing ring, stopped England's Ricky Hatton in the 10th round last December to keep his crown but resists the idea to fight rival champions such as undefeated Miguel Cotto, calling him one-dimensional and talking down his promoter, Bob Arum.

"I'm not going to fight those guys and make them big. They fight Floyd Mayweather that makes them big. I'm not going to let no more fighters piggyback on me," Mayweather said.

"If Oscar de la Hoya wants one more chance to get his ass kicked, we can make it happen. If Ricky Hatton wants one more chance to get his ass kicked, we can make it happen."



For one, what fighters have piggybacked Floyd and made themselves big by fighting Floyd, this guy is delusional!!! Nice to see he's ready to fight guys he's already beaten.

Full article below...

AFP: Mayweather to drop uncle as trainer if he stays with Forbes

Haha it's the total opposite, Floyd is the one fighting popular guys who bring the cash yet he STILL thinks he is the major draw. Loser