If a guy boxes so sideways he almost has his back to you

[Poom]

I spar this guy sometimes who trys to emulate a bit of a PBF style , he turns very sideways and has his right hand up , left hand down or across the waist

He is orthadox so his left side is very exposed to me, o keep hitting him on the back because he only has to turn a tiny bit and his back is exposed to my field of view

Is it legal for me to hit him there?

Hope you can imagine what situation I am describing, I know it is not the best description!

[donnydarkoIRL]

What I would do is throw straight shots at his side or just above his hip.

This sghould straighten him up a bit. Also when he turns or slips down step to your right, you're out of his view and he';ll have to come up to engage you again. That should offer an opportunity for you to hit him.

[Chris Nagel]

I spar this guy sometimes who trys to emulate a bit of a PBF style , he turns very sideways and has his right hand up , left hand down or across the waist

He is orthadox so his left side is very exposed to me, o keep hitting him on the back because he only has to turn a tiny bit and his back is exposed to my field of view

Is it legal for me to hit him there?

Hope you can imagine what situation I am describing, I know it is not the best description!

Say, "I couldn't help but notice the "hit me right here" sign that you have on your back.

It's not legit, and you might get some warnings if it's a real fight.

Here's a fun trick that of mine if they get complacent and have their front hand low. When you close the distance, and their left is low, pin it to the side with one hand, and hit them with your free hand. Do it quickly and step away from their right.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

ooh I once sparred a guy like that, he also used the tactic of stepping on my foot and keeping it there neat trick

never did figure him out totally. Although keeping punches crisp, straight and in bunces did work better than getting frustrated and trying to wing in hooks that they just dip away from so you get the back of the head if you throw a left or they run if you throw a right.

[Chris Nagel]

I think "pain in the arse" is the technical term. It's a puzzle that has been on my mind for a while now. One way that works is the Messican that throws 100+ punches around, this might make him punch back in which he can get countered in the process, or...

Beat him at his own game. Easier said than done right? Make them lead, take from their example by making yourself harder to hit, while offering a little bait and catch em by not being the one to get frusterated. It's a hard way to go, but there are a thousand and one nifty tricks to even the gap. The occassional stepping-on-the-foot being no exception.

[Von Milash]

don't mean to sound like a prick, but i would hit him in the kidney as hard as i could. in fact, my main sparring partner used to do that and then try to come underneath with an uppercut. so id try to feint him with the right, get him turned and bent over a bit, and then use an overhand right to punch him right where there's no leather. if a guy turns his back to me just enough to expose his kidneys, he's fair game as far as im concerned. i mean, what am i supposed to do, stop boxing? that's his problem. protect yourself at all times.

it's just like in hockey.... if a guy tries to block my shot, i try to hurt him, plain and simple. (and i can rifle it.....not quite like the nhl'ers but they use composite sticks, i still use wood!) if you can't take it, don't block shots. and if you can't take a kidney shot, don't turn sideways.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Rotating left and practising a left uppercut based philososphy can work too.
I shadow boxe dd this on my lunch and I'd just use his awkwardness to my advantage.

[Andre]

There are benifits to you ,too.

He already is in the postion of having only one hand against your two so you can exploit this easier than usual with less movment and less commitment.

He can get caught hard as he has to turn in towards you to be able to hit you with his rear glove.

You could control that one arm of his as you move in, from the outside of his elbow and attack with an uppercut or cross from above (depending on his reaction) with your free hand while moving to the outside of that arm of his. Once your there and in range you have two hands to punish him with.

This may take a change in feet depending on if your orthdox or not ( in reverse stance to him or the same stance as him).

IF in reverse stance; then check his elbow as you move forwards and just shuffle along side him, but control his arm as you go there ,then nail his ass as he turns towards you or follow him and rain blows into him if he tries to run by going low and backing out ,sticking onto his ass is the real key,choke out all his movments.

I bet his legs are slightly wider so he can move back fast too,
You can place a foot in between someone legs who tries that low side on shit and they have to lift their leg and interupt their movment to get away from you.

It sounds dangerous ;but if you switch stance and throw your rear leg in between both of his from the outside as you take his elbow from the outside with your rear arm comming forwards into the lead position,you can do it in total saftey in that situation because he is so over committed to his stance.You catch him comming forwards like that and hes a dead man,either that or you haven't practiced what comes next cause thats really being in the box seat.

[Douglas]

Another tip would be to punch him in his left upper arm if he has it down low. If he's practically sideways, watch out for his right cross, which will probably have a bit of extra power.

[boozeboxer]

Well if he is emulating PBF, I would just say I was emulating being Samuel Peter.

[Von Milash]

with your left hand, grab his left elbow. pull it and hammer his side.

[Poom]

Thanks guys . like all the answers,

gonna experiment when i spar him tomorrow