Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
Bilbo why on Earth would anyone want to compare HEAVYWEIGHTS to lower weight classes?

It's counter productive....you can say a guy like Pacquiao or Mayweather moved up or down in weight to beat X,Y, and Z but heavyweights are on an island of their own and whether they are great or not has nothing to do with it but it's harder to appreciate the heavyweights because they can't take on a light heavyweight or cruiserweight and get respect for it they can only tarnish their legacies.


Yes I am saying Ring should remove all heavyweights from their all-time P4P rankings....Ali was THE BIGGEST heavyweight of his era and therefore deserves no place in the P4P....it would be like if Roy Jones Jr. fought only junior middleweights and welterweights when he was at 168-175 and he got props for that.....the heavyweight division is best judged against itself historically and not against every other division all-time.
Of course Ali deserves recognition in the p4p rankings.

By overwhelming consensus he's the second best fighter ever to lace up a pair of gloves, certainly in terms of his achievments.

I don't really see p4p the way you do. I see it as a reflection of the best fighters and a comparison of their respective achievements.

And you do realize the you gave me negative rep for saying I didn't the ranking system used on this site and have now got the reputation of being a moaner whereas you can moan and grumble about the p4p ranking system used to rate boxers and thats ok

You damn hypocrite