What do you make of this girl????

[DAVIDTUA]

Hey dude, thanks for the reps!
Truely women are the greatest mystery on earth.. One thing i've found is that they don't even know what is going on with themselves, so we have absolutely NO chance..

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I think it's only about 20 or 30 pages long so you'll probably get it read in a night or two, and you'll be armed with lots of simple, subtle things that will make this girl feel more comfortable and attracted to you, and hopefully you two will hook up and " make a sexy time "..

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Another good find buddy. Herbal is the guy who took Katya away from Mystery isn't he so will be interesting to read his stuff.

Back to David Tua. I think to be honest mate I wouldn't be thinking about this girl at all anyway. I mean if you only met once I don't see why you'd get hung up over her at all whether she was smoking hot or not.

I think to be honest she has no interest in seeing you. She probably did like you in the club but now when you talk to her she's no longer in that same state so you have no interest to her.

I'm sure if another smoking hot girl came along now you'd forget about this other girl in an instant and that's probably what she's done to you. Don't sweat it though, it's really not a big deal.

If she does email or message you again I'd just act disinterested. I don't mean that as a way to try and attract her through reverse psychology though I mean literally just blow her off.

Why try and jump through hoops for a girl to make her attracted to you? You just lower your own value and self esteem. Adopt a more positive mindset, she messed you around and as a result she lost you. Put yourself in charge. Don't see yourself as someone who is chasing to try and get the girl.

Apart from her looks what has she done to earn your attraction anyway?

Start seeing yourself as the prize rather than the girl. Just give up on this one, honestly that will give you so much more power in the long run.

well normally id agree with you 100%, but i guess there just is something about this girl who just intrigues me or compells me?

yeah your right i reside in california for the most part besides when i travel for work, but california is known for having some of the hottest women in stateside id say generally speaking its a toss up between here and florida.

but some things i guess that really got me in addition to the smokin hot body is shes actually really intelligent, shes pre-med, she speaks well, writes well, shes deep, she knows real hip hop meaning like underground real east coast hip hop that most girls generally here in california never heard of. most girl in general dont even know what real hip hop is. they just know the crap thats played on the mainstream radios or mtv. so whenever i come across a girl who knows real hip they tend to look wack like a butch lesbian lol. also she doesnt wear name brands. that might not sound like such a big deal to others, but to me it is. for alot of the girls in california tend to be really materialistic and tend to wear ONLY high end designer name brand labels galore. she dresses really classy/sexy minus the $1,500 price tag. over all she seems one of a kind compared to the other girls out here who are generally all the same.

i admit i am completely infatuated with her body but she actually has more to offer as well intellectually. we have very meaningful/deep conversations/emails.

i dont know man i guess the thing that mind fucks me the most is i just cant logically explain wtf is going on? like in her mind lol. i guess i never will.

[DAVIDTUA]

for the record buds i still go out when i do have free time and hit the bars/clubs that scene does get old cause i am now 30 and as much as i wanna hit a hot prime 22yr old, mentally usually their mind is like not all ready yet to appreciate anything.

i do not want to sound like douche bag or concieted but i tend to do i guess slightly above average when it comes to just obtaining the digits, but when it comes to landing the first date/getting play/asss/whatever u want to call that part its always up in the air LOL.

i would rather just be straight forward and real versus playing the whole im going to act like i dont care or not interested in you BS t get them to think about me? i dont know maybe if i was like 23 24, but im freakin 30 LOL.

[Kev]

Hey dude, thanks for the reps!
Truely women are the greatest mystery on earth.. One thing i've found is that they don't even know what is going on with themselves, so we have absolutely NO chance..

I've got a really awesome E-book for you by a guy names Tynan... He lived in a house in Hollywood with a couple of the worlds greatest pickup artists for a year, and has a lot of great insights into how girls work and how to get the upper hand with them...
This particular e-book is more specifically dedicated to turning around relationships from you doing the work and chasing a girl, to her doing the work to chase you.
I think it's only about 20 or 30 pages long so you'll probably get it read in a night or two, and you'll be armed with lots of simple, subtle things that will make this girl feel more comfortable and attracted to you, and hopefully you two will hook up and " make a sexy time "..

Anyway, only want the best for ya man! Girls are tough tough tough, and we need all the advantages we can get when dealing with a hot woman..
It should only take a minute or 2 to download also, so give it a shot...

AND GOOD LUCK!!!

Tynan - AKA "Herbal" - Make Her Chase You (book)

RapidShare: 1-Click Webhosting

Another good find buddy. Herbal is the guy who took Katya away from Mystery isn't he so will be interesting to read his stuff.

Back to David Tua. I think to be honest mate I wouldn't be thinking about this girl at all anyway. I mean if you only met once I don't see why you'd get hung up over her at all whether she was smoking hot or not.

I think to be honest she has no interest in seeing you. She probably did like you in the club but now when you talk to her she's no longer in that same state so you have no interest to her.

I'm sure if another smoking hot girl came along now you'd forget about this other girl in an instant and that's probably what she's done to you. Don't sweat it though, it's really not a big deal.

If she does email or message you again I'd just act disinterested. I don't mean that as a way to try and attract her through reverse psychology though I mean literally just blow her off.

Why try and jump through hoops for a girl to make her attracted to you? You just lower your own value and self esteem. Adopt a more positive mindset, she messed you around and as a result she lost you. Put yourself in charge. Don't see yourself as someone who is chasing to try and get the girl.

Apart from her looks what has she done to earn your attraction anyway?

Start seeing yourself as the prize rather than the girl. Just give up on this one, honestly that will give you so much more power in the long run.

well normally id agree with you 100%, but i guess there just is something about this girl who just intrigues me or compells me?

yeah your right i reside in california for the most part besides when i travel for work, but california is known for having some of the hottest women in stateside id say generally speaking its a toss up between here and florida.

but some things i guess that really got me in addition to the smokin hot body is shes actually really intelligent, shes pre-med, she speaks well, writes well, shes deep, she knows real hip hop meaning like underground real east coast hip hop that most girls generally here in california never heard of. most girl in general dont even know what real hip hop is. they just know the crap thats played on the mainstream radios or mtv. so whenever i come across a girl who knows real hip they tend to look wack like a butch lesbian lol. also she doesnt wear name brands. that might not sound like such a big deal to others, but to me it is. for alot of the girls in california tend to be really materialistic and tend to wear ONLY high end designer name brand labels galore. she dresses really classy/sexy minus the $1,500 price tag. over all she seems one of a kind compared to the other girls out here who are generally all the same.

i admit i am completely infatuated with her body but she actually has more to offer as well intellectually. we have very meaningful/deep conversations/emails.

i dont know man i guess the thing that mind fucks me the most is i just cant logically explain wtf is going on? like in her mind lol. i guess i never will.

Yeah I know what your saying I really dig intelligent girls myself although I wouldn't have thought a knowledge of hip hop is evidence of that, but then I'm not really into music.

Why not post a picture up and we can tell you if she's worth the time?

Ha just kidding.

Is she still talking to you now, I mean emailing and texting?

Have you ever spoken on the phone?

I wouldn't chase her at all, no girl is worth that imo. If someone is unable to recognise your worth anyway then you can't make someone like you by pestering them.

By the sounds of the day you met she did all the leading. You said she dragged you all over the club holding your hand. That may seem good but if you just go everywhere with her like a lapdog then you'll have lost her interest to an extent.

I don't know, personally I'd just forget about her and move on. I mean you can still talk to her online, but just accept she's nothing more than a MSN buddy or email pal.

And who knows in time if she keeps in touch and sees from your emails etc that you are moving on with your life that may attract her again and you might eventually meet.

Don't try and force something though as and let's be honest here if she really wanted to meet up with you she probably would have by now.

One other tactic you could try is if you are still talking a lot invite her to something you are doing anyway. For example if you're going shopping for clothes you could tell her 'I need you to help me pick a belt/pair of boots etc'.

This takes most of the pressure off of a meeting in the event that she was just too nervous, as you're not asking her for a date, she's just invited to come along to something youre already doing anyway. That means that you arn't going specifically to see her, and that there is no pressure on a meeting.

You're just demonstrating that you have a life and are going shopping at the weekend and you want her to come along and help you choose a belt.

It's not a date, you're not going out specifically to meet each other, it's just a low key fun social interaction.

Might be a little late for that now if she's already feeling pressured but useful to try next time.

But don't ever make it look like you're pressuring her for a date as it just lowers your value. You want her to want to meet up with you not be guilt tripped or nagged into it.

[DAVIDTUA]

yeah bilbo just to clarify tho i wasnt relating her knowledge of true hip hop to her intelligence those were two seperate points i was trying to make lol.

shes intelligent because shes not only street smart, shes book smart, shes freakin pred med and she tutors other students in science and math hahaha. now when was the last time you saw a hot math/science tutor with the DD cups, i bet id get all A's in those subjects if i had a hot tutor like that LOL.

she wants to travel the world and teach english in other parts of the world.

i confronted her on one phone conversation about her being intelligent and shes like whoa u can read people real well. cause everything i said about her she said was correct and spot on.

dont get me wrong i mean im not up all night thinking about her or anything like that its just ive been wondering WTF is she the way she is and whats going on in her mind. im pretty much cool and doing my thang, but again its when she randomly hits me with the text pics thats when its GAME OVER for me and im like right back in it again?

[Kev]

yeah bilbo just to clarify tho i wasnt relating her knowledge of true hip hop to her intelligence those were two seperate points i was trying to make lol.

shes intelligent because shes not only street smart, shes book smart, shes freakin pred med and she tutors other students in science and math hahaha. now when was the last time you saw a hot math/science tutor with the DD cups, i bet id get all A's in those subjects if i had a hot tutor like that LOL.

she wants to travel the world and teach english in other parts of the world.

i confronted her on one phone conversation about her being intelligent and shes like whoa u can read people real well. cause everything i said about her she said was correct and spot on.

dont get me wrong i mean im not up all night thinking about her or anything like that its just ive been wondering WTF is she the way she is and whats going on in her mind. im pretty much cool and doing my thang, but again its when she randomly hits me with the text pics thats when its GAME OVER for me and im like right back in it again?

Has she ever said she's interested in you? I mean if she's saying she wants to meet up and sending you raunchy pics then I'd say she's playing games with you. I don't know she sounds a little weird to me.

Look at this way, if she's as hot as you say and is also not only intelligent but teaches science and maths then its a fair bet to say she's definitely socially calibrated and isn't being put off meeting you through shyness.

The only reason she hasn't met up with you I'm afraid is because she doesn't want to, that would be my take on it.

Maybe Sharla or Katfights could give you a better insight into her pyschology both being girls and all.

[DAVIDTUA]

hahaha LOL yeah its weird indeed! i think we are back at ground zero.

well shes never said shes interested in me, i dont think any girl especially of all places in california would actually say that lol.

but she has dropped obvious hints like: we should go here or there and she not only says we should go here or there she textes me pics of her at these locations. her name is NINA by the way.

well some other factors im not sure if we covered yet was i did meet her friend: Melissa first earlier that day i dont know how close they are or if they were just friends of friends or just mere aquaintances but NINA did kinda brag to Melissa by saying hey guess who im with right now blah blah.

at that same night her other friend: Karen, kept saying like hey why are you here by yourself blah blah then Karen went onto say oh your here pimping it huh?(what are you supposed to respond to that? and why would Karen say that if i was already holding hands with Nina LOL?)

so one possible reason is that same friend: Karen is telling her that im a player and not to go out with me?

for the record i only to this day only one i ever talk to after that night was NINA and not her friends after that night.

but in a few of the pics that she sent me Karen is also with her. so im assuming Nina and Karen are good friends. so u know how girls are they control each others lives literally.

i really thought that she doesnt want to hook up as u stated, but if thats true wtf is up with all the confusing hey we should go here and there text messages with pics.

for example on new years she kept calling and texting until i responded she went to vegas and she like would not stop calling or texting till i responded LOL.

so maybe.... she only calls/textes when shes feeling really nostalgic/drunk i dont know man

[Kev]

hahaha LOL yeah its weird indeed! i think we are back at ground zero.

well shes never said shes interested in me, i dont think any girl especially of all places in california would actually say that lol.

but she has dropped obvious hints like: we should go here or there and she not only says we should go here or there she textes me pics of her at these locations. her name is NINA by the way.

well some other factors im not sure if we covered yet was i did meet her friend: Melissa first earlier that day i dont know how close they are or if they were just friends of friends or just mere aquaintances but NINA did kinda brag to Melissa by saying hey guess who im with right now blah blah.

at that same night her other friend: Karen, kept saying like hey why are you here by yourself blah blah then Karen went onto say oh your here pimping it huh?(what are you supposed to respond to that? and why would Karen say that if i was already holding hands with Nina LOL?)

so one possible reason is that same friend: Karen is telling her that im a player and not to go out with me?

for the record i only to this day only one i ever talk to after that night was NINA and not her friends after that night.

but in a few of the pics that she sent me Karen is also with her. so im assuming Nina and Karen are good friends. so u know how girls are they control each others lives literally.

i really thought that she doesnt want to hook up as u stated, but if thats true wtf is up with all the confusing hey we should go here and there text messages with pics.

for example on new years she kept calling and texting until i responded she went to vegas and she like would not stop calling or texting till i responded LOL.

so maybe.... she only calls/textes when shes feeling really nostalgic/drunk i dont know man

Girls are funny things mate. They want validation, i.e to feel like they are attractive to someone.

Oftentimes when they have got that, they lose interest. I have a friend like that called Emma. We met at college about 6 years ago and have been friends ever since. She's a groupie type girl, all her boyfriends have been either DJ's or in a band.

I know nothing about music and we've always been just friends, although very close ones. We've always hung out a lot, gone clubbing together, she's stayed over at my house etc but we arn't interested in each other. I'm not her type at all in terms of boyfriend and she isn't my type either although although physically I'd happily bang the fuck out of her whenever she wanted.

Anway, whenever she was in between boyfriends she'd ring me more and more often, she'd want me to go over and see her all the time, and she'd love to get me turned on by her. She'd lay on the bed and ask me to massage her or stroke her legs, she'd love me licking her neck and telling her she was gorgeous but whenever I tried to kiss she'd turn away.

She didn't want me she just wanted me to to really want her. One time she even rang me up at 1 in the morning playing with herself down the phone at me. She wanted to go over and of course once I did go over she had sobered up and didn't want to any more. She even accused me of taking advantage of her drunken state

Anyway that night I got really pissed at her, told her she was a little prick tease and an attention hoe and got up to leave. She just threw herself at me and started kissing me.

I told her she was pathetic and gave her a condescending pat on the back and left and she started crying 'please don't go!' and all this crap.

But she was never interested me at all, it was just games on her part and her wanting to feel attractive to me to boost her own ego.

In her case though it really didn't bother me at all. I mean I love her to bits as a mate but I wouldn't want to be with her in a million years and she feels exactly the same.

She's living with a guy now, another singer in a band but she'll still ring every time they've had a row or something and want to come over. I just laugh at her and tell she's a little attention hoe and she laughs back, cos she knows it!

But we still meet up platonically during the day now and again. We'll meet up in town and go shopping or she'll pop over and we'll chat.

She's a great girl and I value her friendship, and she does mine but I don't allow her to play her little games with me any more, not because she'll hurt me, I don't like her in that way for her to be able to lead me on. But because I don't want to be a tool who gets led along by her. If she rings now when she's drunk and says we should meet up right now I just tell she's an attention whore and we both laugh about it.

The alternative is I drive 6 miles to her house (whilst her guy is away obviously) and have her flaunt herself at me for an hour in a bid to try and get me to kiss her so she can get a feeling of mission acomplished and then tell me she's really tired and that I should go! We've played game sooooo many times that now I don't allow her that power.

I imagine this girl is similar, she gets off on you showing your attracted to her. Just play games with her back. Next time she sends you a pic, tell her she looks like she's putting on weight. Or if she shows you a pic of her in a new dress say something like 'Oh yeah that dress is really popular right now I've noticed three different girls in it this week!' and then say 'But you look nice in it though'

By the sounds of it she's just like my mate Ems, she likes to feel validated, you can give her that validation but make her jump through a load of hoops first to get it. She'll actually be more attracted to you as a result anyway, girls like a man whose interest they have to earn, think a cat with a piece of string, if you dangle it in front of them they will go mad trying to get it, but if you just place it at their feet they will turn up their noses and walk away........