Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings

[JLAQ]

Floyd is easily the most gifted fighter today. I do consider him #1 P4P but he should be dropped soon because of his inactivity and his unwillingness to fight the better fighters in his division. I could just imagine how crazy this forum would get if he was ever knocked out of the top spot.

What p4p fighter has Floyd beat SPECTACULARLY? NONE. Bear in mind that Hatton AT 147 is NOT by any means, a p4p fighter.

Pac on the other hand has beaten MAB, Morales, JMM, all p4pers, and has beaten them by putting their HOFer asses on the floor, MANY TIMES. That is what a p4p king does. Potshotting your way to victory against Baldomir isn't p4p worthy. Nor is illegally using your elbows, shoulders against opponents.

[Unknowndonor]

Floyd must have slept with JLAQ's girlfriend. It's one thing to root for you're favorite fighter, and boo you're least favorite, but to say that every fighter Floyd has fought is a bum, and to say Pac has fought all the greatest is completely ridiculous.

As for Joe, I got him three right now. Floyd is one, Pac- a very close second until Floyd decides to fight finally, and Joe. JMM and Pac r like a 2-headed monster, and should be tied, but with Pac escaping with the win, JMM falls 1. I put Joe ahead of him simply because,(with the exception of manfredo), his last fights have all been against champs. Overrated or not, they were champs, that were undefeated, and now he beat the concensus #1 light heavy, who is ranked as a p4p fighter,regardless of age, or any other excuse. All Joe has been doing is taking belts, and titles, he has no losses or draws. Although I think some of the other fighters might be better skilled, Joe has done enough lately, and others have lost.Just my opinion.

Yes, Floyd beats a 43 yr old BHOP, p4p, and doesn't get dropped.

[JLAQ]

Floyd must have slept with JLAQ's girlfriend. It's one thing to root for you're favorite fighter, and boo you're least favorite, but to say that every fighter Floyd has fought is a bum, and to say Pac has fought all the greatest is completely ridiculous.

As for Joe, I got him three right now. Floyd is one, Pac- a very close second until Floyd decides to fight finally, and Joe. JMM and Pac r like a 2-headed monster, and should be tied, but with Pac escaping with the win, JMM falls 1. I put Joe ahead of him simply because,(with the exception of manfredo), his last fights have all been against champs. Overrated or not, they were champs, that were undefeated, and now he beat the concensus #1 light heavy, who is ranked as a p4p fighter,regardless of age, or any other excuse. All Joe has been doing is taking belts, and titles, he has no losses or draws. Although I think some of the other fighters might be better skilled, Joe has done enough lately, and others have lost.Just my opinion.

Yes, Floyd beats a 43 yr old BHOP, p4p, and doesn't get dropped.

The great Marco Antonio Barrera: OWNED!
The great Erik Morales: OWNED!
The great Juan Manuel Marquez: OWNED!

On the other hand, did Floyd own Castillo or DelaHoya, the biggest names in his resume? HELL FUCKING NO! And is Castillo even close to any of the three that Pac absolutely OWNED? Another HELL FUCKING NO!

I rest my case.

P.S. Nard beats Floyd. Especially if the ref helps him.

[Unknowndonor]

Pac lost to Morrales, or did you forget, and he had a draw against JMM, which I thought he clearly lost, and the second fight against JMM could have went either way, So owned? you need to watch some more boxing son, because you obviously know nothing about it.

[JLAQ]

Pac lost to Morrales, or did you forget, and he had a draw against JMM, which I thought he clearly lost, and the second fight against JMM could have went either way, So owned? you need to watch some more boxing son, because you obviously know nothing about it.

Re Morales: IMO Pac won the first fight. He did KO the beejesus out of Morales in the 2nd and 3rd fights, and if you don't call that ABSOLUTE OWNAGE, I don't know what will.

Re JMM: If a guy puts your ass on the canvass five times in fifteen rounds, the guy basically OWNS you. If you travel 5000 miles to ask the guy for a third fight, the guy OWNS you. If you have a Manny Pacquiao poster in your gym or bedroom, the guy OWNS you.

[Unknowndonor]

The second fight against Erik was a good fight, Pac was just better, the third, he was owned, but he still lost one, so he didn't own Erik, just the third fight.

JMM- the first fight, besides the first round, JMM owned Pac. And yes, he got dropped, but was never close to being knocked out. Alot of boxers get dropped, that doesn't mean they were "owned".

I like Pac alot, but to clear the air, Floyd would have never lost to the guys Pac did, including Erik, that's why he's number 1.

[Spicoli]

The second fight against Erik was a good fight, Pac was just better, the third, he was owned, but he still lost one, so he didn't own Erik, just the third fight.

JMM- the first fight, besides the first round, JMM owned Pac. And yes, he got dropped, but was never close to being knocked out. Alot of boxers get dropped, that doesn't mean they were "owned".

I like Pac alot, but to clear the air, Floyd would have never lost to the guys Pac did, including Erik, that's why he's number 1.

Agreed,I would like to see Mayweather fight a stun gun and baseball bat,can't stand him ..but...He does spank Pac around if they met...which they won't...If a guy gets UP 5 times and gives you two hellish fights that are very debatable...Thats more of a Shared Lease than owning

[JLAQ]

The second fight against Erik was a good fight, Pac was just better, the third, he was owned, but he still lost one, so he didn't own Erik, just the third fight.

JMM- the first fight, besides the first round, JMM owned Pac. And yes, he got dropped, but was never close to being knocked out. Alot of boxers get dropped, that doesn't mean they were "owned".

I like Pac alot, but to clear the air, Floyd would have never lost to the guys Pac did, including Erik, that's why he's number 1.

Floyd lost to Castillo who is not in the league of a Marco Antonio Barrera. You're just hating.

You live in a world where the Manfredys and Corleys of boxing are better than the Sasakuls and Ledwabas. Sadly, that belongs to a close-minded type of thinking where foreign boxers are taken out of the equation. Sure tells us a lot of your boxing knowledge which can only be characterized as provincial.

[Violent Demise]

Floyd must have slept with JLAQ's girlfriend. It's one thing to root for you're favorite fighter, and boo you're least favorite, but to say that every fighter Floyd has fought is a bum, and to say Pac has fought all the greatest is completely ridiculous.

As for Joe, I got him three right now. Floyd is one, Pac- a very close second until Floyd decides to fight finally, and Joe. JMM and Pac r like a 2-headed monster, and should be tied, but with Pac escaping with the win, JMM falls 1. I put Joe ahead of him simply because,(with the exception of manfredo), his last fights have all been against champs. Overrated or not, they were champs, that were undefeated, and now he beat the concensus #1 light heavy, who is ranked as a p4p fighter,regardless of age, or any other excuse. All Joe has been doing is taking belts, and titles, he has no losses or draws. Although I think some of the other fighters might be better skilled, Joe has done enough lately, and others have lost.Just my opinion.

Yes, Floyd beats a 43 yr old BHOP, p4p, and doesn't get dropped.

JFag doesn't like girls. So there is noway that can happen

[JLAQ]

Floyd must have slept with JLAQ's girlfriend. It's one thing to root for you're favorite fighter, and boo you're least favorite, but to say that every fighter Floyd has fought is a bum, and to say Pac has fought all the greatest is completely ridiculous.

As for Joe, I got him three right now. Floyd is one, Pac- a very close second until Floyd decides to fight finally, and Joe. JMM and Pac r like a 2-headed monster, and should be tied, but with Pac escaping with the win, JMM falls 1. I put Joe ahead of him simply because,(with the exception of manfredo), his last fights have all been against champs. Overrated or not, they were champs, that were undefeated, and now he beat the concensus #1 light heavy, who is ranked as a p4p fighter,regardless of age, or any other excuse. All Joe has been doing is taking belts, and titles, he has no losses or draws. Although I think some of the other fighters might be better skilled, Joe has done enough lately, and others have lost.Just my opinion.

Yes, Floyd beats a 43 yr old BHOP, p4p, and doesn't get dropped.

JFag doesn't like girls. So there is noway that can happen

That's the fifth time you discussed my sexuality today. Sorry, not interested.

[Kenneth B]

It´s silly to suggest Joe doesn´t belong in the top 10. Obviously he does. It´s also wrong to suggest he should be higher than 3. It´s a POUND FOR POUND list. If Mayweather and Pacquio (I can never spell his name) were natural supermiddles, they would both destroy Joe. Also, a lot of people want to make these lists into popularity contests, which they are not. People hate Mayweather and I can understand why, but he is easily the number one pound for pound. The race is not close. And that´s based on skill AND accomplishment. It´s like when Whitaker was number one and very disliked. But it was impossible to argue against his ranking, without sounding silly