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    Default Re: Was Muhammad Ali really the best

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    Thats interesting Daxx did you have Leonard beating Hagler ?? just out of curiosity i just want to see how you score fights.
    No I had Hagler up by 2....IMO Leonard got the nod because he was Leonard (No other way to put it)...
    Ahh ok i was just wondering it you favored fighters who fought in spurts with the more flashy work.
    I don't like a lot of flash and cettainly do not go for guys who try to steal rounds...

    With that being said I will sometimes give a round to a guy who was hit more but controlled the tempo of the round...made the other guy fight at his pace...made the guy stop working when he wanted to etc....now I am not talking about if a guy gets peppered the whole round and manages to slow things down by holding on for dear life....

    I am talking if he does not run and keeps things going the way he wants...If he fights in spurts he has to control the rest of the tempo...not run, get hit at will then just rattle off some punches every 30 seconds to make it look like has has done something
    Hidden Content IN CASE THEY ALL FORGOT WHAT REAL HEAVYWEIGHT POWER WAS!!!

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    Default Re: Was Muhammad Ali really the best

    To answer the original question, yes I think Ali was the greatest ever heavyweight.

    Over Louis and Marciano he enjoyed a size, speed, reach, weight and movement advantage.

    Over Johnson he had ring generalship and combinations.

    I feel Ali at hois peak was the best and would have difficulty only with Holmes, Lewis and Norton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    To answer the original question, yes I think Ali was the greatest ever heavyweight.

    Over Louis and Marciano he enjoyed a size, speed, reach, weight and movement advantage.

    Over Johnson he had ring generalship and combinations.

    I feel Ali at hois peak was the best and would have difficulty only with Holmes, Lewis and Norton.
    It was his ability to fight in or out that made him a nightmare to deal with. He had the power to slug with you if he had to,but he could also disapeer on a moments notice. He had the weirdest but the best footwork of any heavyweight Ive ever seen,combined with a hook that could drop you dead.

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    Default Re: Was Muhammad Ali really the best

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    To answer the original question, yes I think Ali was the greatest ever heavyweight.

    Over Louis and Marciano he enjoyed a size, speed, reach, weight and movement advantage.

    Over Johnson he had ring generalship and combinations.

    I feel Ali at hois peak was the best and would have difficulty only with Holmes, Lewis and Norton.
    It was his ability to fight in or out that made him a nightmare to deal with. He had the power to slug with you if he had to,but he could also disapeer on a moments notice. He had the weirdest but the best footwork of any heavyweight Ive ever seen,combined with a hook that could drop you dead.
    That hook finished Oscar Bonavena.
    Foreman and Frazier couldn't do that!
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    Default Re: Was Muhammad Ali really the best

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    To answer the original question, yes I think Ali was the greatest ever heavyweight.

    Over Louis and Marciano he enjoyed a size, speed, reach, weight and movement advantage.

    Over Johnson he had ring generalship and combinations.

    I feel Ali at hois peak was the best and would have difficulty only with Holmes, Lewis and Norton.
    It was his ability to fight in or out that made him a nightmare to deal with. He had the power to slug with you if he had to,but he could also disapeer on a moments notice. He had the weirdest but the best footwork of any heavyweight Ive ever seen,combined with a hook that could drop you dead.
    That hook finished Oscar Bonavena.
    Foreman and Frazier couldn't do that!
    The damn thing just came out of nowhere,and came with power to beat the band,youd be thinking you were surviving,and he'd just got bored with you ,and then BOOM
    Your lying on the canvas wondering what happened.
    Ali was a one of a kind fighter

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    Default Re: Was Muhammad Ali really the best

    I showed up here at saddo a n00b boxing fan, and of course would say Ali is the greatest ever. It was all I really knew.

    Since reading a lot of educated boxing fan opinions, I no longer have that same mindset. And thanks to the wonders of youtube, online vid in general where I can go watch fighters like Joe Louis and so on, it really broadens ones outlook on the sport. So for now the jury is still out.

    So yea, thanks for that.

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