Question for the biblical religious

[Andre]

Astrology was mentioned several times on those links so let me give you my view on it. Ya, the stars, moons, planets, etc. moving about in some definite pattern in well-coordinated manner must have influence on everything around them. Or more accurately, since they are being moved by the same universal force that moves us also, their respective movements or positions may be used to forecast our position in life, figuratively, I mean. Since they are actually being moved by the same force or forces that affect or move everything else in this world, they must, naturally, have some relation (but not necessarily effects as Astrologers believe) to every other things. But the problem with Astrology is that they use primarily the macro data to make forecast at the micro level, which is vastly complicated and has vastly more factors that influence them. I think the planetary motions and positions has a more general effects than specific ones. At the human level, Astrologers should look for more immediate or micro factors to more accurately forecast where individual lives will likely to go. But then, going into the terrestial level may not be within their scope or territory. And knowing the exact time and place of birth is not enough either - there are countless other micro factors that affects human lives. That's the reason that those daily Astrological forecasts hardly go right. Simply put, they are just too simplistic. In Economics, they never use macro data to determine our individual (micro) economic conditions.

The moon effects water dramatically and we as humans are made of 90 something % water. The Police know all about full moons and its mass effects some man up for it if it falls on a weekend.
Imagine the effects on some when a massive planet comes closer,it all adds up, even physically.

Ya, you are absolutely right there, but I think planets affects us more in a general sort of way then in a specific manner 'coz if it were specific we'll probably more or less be doing the same sort of things. By general I mean something that affects all or most of us together in some way or ways. Like for example, world wars, Hiroshima, 911. And the tippecanoe thing, since it occurs at long intervals and basically involves the US, perhaps had lesser influence from the planets. The specific ones I mentioned are like, someone's birth, marriages and all other events that only affect specific persons - these I think have only little planetary influence as, again, if planets significantly affected every small details of human lives, we'd all be acting more or less in the same way. This world is influenced by many factors, of course including the planetary gravities, but more so at the individual level where there are countless factors that influence us. The two of the most important factors at the specific level I believe are the territorial factors and the personal factors, which are confluence of factors within an area and personal relationships. Actually, I've got it all figured out in one neat theory but since it wouldn't pass scientific scrutiny (though I don't believe in scientific system entirely), I'll just call it a hypothesis. But it will take couple of books to discuss them fully so I can't go into it all here.

Yeah I can see that.
Some people are born underneath a strong planetary line up though and they wil be more influenced to change than others when those same planets are directly above or moving through each others paths.
That type of astrology is faultless if you look into it or get your own birthchart done.
The day by day one you read in the papers is a crock of sh!t cause you cant be that general about something so changable.
Maybe some people who remove themselves physically from lifes playing field probably arent as effected (like a cave dweller hermit type)
Libraryian ,those types: IF that is true then the ones right into lifes deep end of the many ponds would be more effected like stock brokers,fishermen,people who are over emotional already etc.
just a thought.

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Yeah I can see that.
Some people are born underneath a strong planetary line up though and they wil be more influenced to change than others when those same planets are directly above or moving through each others paths.
That type of astrology is faultless if you look into it or get your own birthchart done.
The day by day one you read in the papers is a crock of sh!t cause you cant be that general about something so changable.
Maybe some people who remove themselves physically from lifes playing field probably arent as effected (like a cave dweller hermit type)
Libraryian ,those types: IF that is true then the ones right into lifes deep end of the many ponds would be more effected like stock brokers,fishermen,people who are over emotional already etc.
just a thought.

Did you mean the luna(r)tics?
I think at the local level, people are more influenced by their communitiy wave and their kinship (relatives') wave. This is because we are connected to the direct energy of our place and our minds are connected to the minds of our immediate community as well as the minds of our relatives, and in both cases, the closer the place or the relation, the stronger the connection. You will know this when something similar happens to someone in your neiborhood also happens to some relative, whereever he might be. Sometimes, something that happens at the international level might even affect you if you have something common with it or him, for example when someone famous named Andre wins in a lottery, you might also win in a smaller way like in a poker game. Famous people like celebrities carry and project huge energies because of their position; that's why when oridinary people comes near a celebrity, they feel strong energy because of the strong aura they carry and transmit. This is because we are energy beings all connected to everything else in this world but the strongest connection comes with those energies you have some close relations with. This is because of the phenomenon call the harmonics, which is a sympathetic vibrations in the wave. It can be easily demonstrated on a guitar. If you pluck any string on a guitar, all the other strings tuned in the same way or pitch of that string, or in its multiples/divisibles of 2 (that is 2x, 4x, 8x, or 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 etc.) will also vibrate together even when you did not even touch them. This is a natural characteristic of any wave. To put it simply if you pluck a do (as in do re mi) string, all other strings tuned also to do's will also vibrate together. (And it can be any do's, for example, do-re-mi-fa-sol-la-ti-do, the two do's are considered same tone even if the first is lower than the last one - if you check their frequencies, the second do is exactly the double of the first one in numbers of vibrations, that is if the first was 100hz (vibrations per second) the last will be 200hz - you call them as octaves. It can also be 400, 800... or 50 [1/2], 25 [1/4], hz. - they are still octaves as long as they are in multiple of 2's.)

That's how waves operates, no matter what kind they are - similar waves (frequecies measured in hertz or hz.) reinforces one another. This is what I believe is responsible for all coincidences in the world. Actually there is no real coincidence in this world because everything happens because of certain reasons. Even when your parents picked your name, some waves affected them to choose that name... Yes, I must be a luna(r)tic.