Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????

[Fenster]

JC by unanimous decision

At 168 kessler is heavier handed than pavlik and JC managed to extinguish his threat early on.

I really dont buy into the whole pavlik phenomena, 2-3 decent wins dont make a great fighter.

Thats all it took for Calzaghe fans to be convinced. He only has a couple of great wins. One of them or two was controversial with Hopkins and Robin Ried.

THANK GOD SOMEONE SAID IT BEFORE I DID!! Pavlik's supposed 2-3 decent wins are arguably better than Calzaghe's 2-3 decent wins...

This is ridiculous. You guys can't honestly believe their records are comparable?

Pavlik's THREE best wins are Taylor - middleweight champ. Miranda - failed "world" title challenger and ?? ... There isn't even a 3rd

Calzaghe's best wins... (in no particular order)

1. Hopkins - Middleweight "great," Lightheavy champ
2. Eubank - Top 5 best ever supermiddle
3. Kessler - WBC/WBA UNBEATEN champ
4. Lacy - IBF UNBEATEN champ
5. Reid - WBC champ
6. Brewer - IBF champ
7. Mitchell - WBA champ
8. Woodhall - WBC champ

Calzaghe's win over Omar Sheika is on a par with Pavlik's 2nd best ever win.

Come on boys, get real

[southakron314]

Thats all it took for Calzaghe fans to be convinced. He only has a couple of great wins. One of them or two was controversial with Hopkins and Robin Ried.

THANK GOD SOMEONE SAID IT BEFORE I DID!! Pavlik's supposed 2-3 decent wins are arguably better than Calzaghe's 2-3 decent wins...

This is ridiculous. You guys can't honestly believe their records are comparable?

Pavlik's THREE best wins are Taylor - middleweight champ. Miranda - failed "world" title challenger and ?? ... There isn't even a 3rd

Calzaghe's best wins... (in no particular order)

1. Hopkins - Middleweight "great," Lightheavy champ
2. Eubank - Top 5 best ever supermiddle
3. Kessler - WBC/WBA UNBEATEN champ
4. Lacy - IBF UNBEATEN champ
5. Reid - WBC champ
6. Brewer - IBF champ
7. Mitchell - WBA champ
8. Woodhall - WBC champ

Calzaghe's win over Omar Sheika is on a par with Pavlik's 2nd best ever win.

Come on boys, get real

Every one you mentioned Pavlik would most likely knockout. Not hanging on to shady split dicisions by the skin of his scrotum like Joe. Sorry but I still think he lost to Hopkins. The Reid and Hopkins should have been loses draws if not loses. Hopkins was a loss.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Although a flawed way of thinking, Calzaghe's best win was against BHop... Kelly's were against JT, who he KO'd once and outboxed second... Oh and JT Beat Joe C's best op. twice... Although flawed it is true...

[Fenster]

Although a flawed way of thinking, Calzaghe's best win was against BHop... Kelly's were against JT, who he KO'd once and outboxed second... Oh and JT Beat Joe C's best op. twice... Although flawed it is true...

Yes, extremely flawed reasoning, my friend.

For the argument to hold any weight Calzaghe would have needed to have lost. But as we know.. He won.

All you're left with is - Taylor beat Hopkins. Cazlaghe beat Hopkins. Pavlik beat Taylor. In this scenario, there is no formline that elevates Pavlik above Calzaghe

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

The calzaghe/reid fight was one of the worst fights i've seen in my life. Punch 2 times then hold, repeat for the rest of the fight. Terrible fight. How you guys thought Reid beat Calzaghe is mind boggling.

[southakron314]

The calzaghe/reid fight was one of the worst fights i've seen in my life. Punch 2 times then hold, repeat for the rest of the fight. Terrible fight. How you guys thought Reid beat Calzaghe is mind boggling.

I do recall it close enough for a split. If it was such a one sidded affiar it would have been all three cards.

[HattonTheHammer]

THANK GOD SOMEONE SAID IT BEFORE I DID!! Pavlik's supposed 2-3 decent wins are arguably better than Calzaghe's 2-3 decent wins...

This is ridiculous. You guys can't honestly believe their records are comparable?

Pavlik's THREE best wins are Taylor - middleweight champ. Miranda - failed "world" title challenger and ?? ... There isn't even a 3rd

Calzaghe's best wins... (in no particular order)

1. Hopkins - Middleweight "great," Lightheavy champ
2. Eubank - Top 5 best ever supermiddle
3. Kessler - WBC/WBA UNBEATEN champ
4. Lacy - IBF UNBEATEN champ
5. Reid - WBC champ
6. Brewer - IBF champ
7. Mitchell - WBA champ
8. Woodhall - WBC champ

Calzaghe's win over Omar Sheika is on a par with Pavlik's 2nd best ever win.

Come on boys, get real

Every one you mentioned Pavlik would most likely knockout. Not hanging on to shady split dicisions by the skin of his scrotum like Joe. Sorry but I still think he lost to Hopkins. The Reid and Hopkins should have been loses draws if not loses. Hopkins was a loss.

care to explain how you scored the contest to hopkins when calzaghe clearly won in every sane persons opinion

And you keep mentioning the robin reid fight

reid fought the fight of his life that night and was always a very underrated boxer. he took joe out of his gameplan and dictated the pace of the fight for the majority of the rounds yet still JC was able to land big. The very best of fighters come a cropper every so often.

Manny pac has a few losses to nobodys on his CV, Mayweather almost came on the wrong end of a loss to victoriano sosa as did hatton when he fought thaxton.

[southakron314]

This is ridiculous. You guys can't honestly believe their records are comparable?

Pavlik's THREE best wins are Taylor - middleweight champ. Miranda - failed "world" title challenger and ?? ... There isn't even a 3rd

Calzaghe's best wins... (in no particular order)

1. Hopkins - Middleweight "great," Lightheavy champ
2. Eubank - Top 5 best ever supermiddle
3. Kessler - WBC/WBA UNBEATEN champ
4. Lacy - IBF UNBEATEN champ
5. Reid - WBC champ
6. Brewer - IBF champ
7. Mitchell - WBA champ
8. Woodhall - WBC champ

Calzaghe's win over Omar Sheika is on a par with Pavlik's 2nd best ever win.

Come on boys, get real

Every one you mentioned Pavlik would most likely knockout. Not hanging on to shady split dicisions by the skin of his scrotum like Joe. Sorry but I still think he lost to Hopkins. The Reid and Hopkins should have been loses draws if not loses. Hopkins was a loss.

care to explain how you scored the contest to hopkins when calzaghe clearly won in every sane persons opinion

And you keep mentioning the robin reid fight

reid fought the fight of his life that night and was always a very underrated boxer. he took joe out of his gameplan and dictated the pace of the fight for the majority of the rounds yet still JC was able to land big. The very best of fighters come a cropper every so often.

Manny pac has a few losses to nobodys on his CV, Mayweather almost came on the wrong end of a loss to victoriano sosa as did hatton when he fought thaxton.

Yes I do care to. I would score in the favor of Hopkins because he knocked Joe on his ass. He hurt him several times as well. Hopkins looked like he just got done with a brisk jog after the fight. Look at Taylors face , Lockets after 2.5 rounds, Miranda was unreconnizable. I would not score punches (slaps) to the arms and shoulders. I would have deducted a piont of the second low blow. Hopkins was never hurt or even introuble in the fight. Pavlik is longer , faster , throws harder and quicker punches. He throws the same amount as Clazaghe. Thus Pavlik throws twice as many because half of his shit is pitter slaps. I dont even know how someone can like him or be a fan. He is a slapper and he tried to be a canal pal to Hopkins when he got hit in the nutts.

[Fenster]

THANK GOD SOMEONE SAID IT BEFORE I DID!! Pavlik's supposed 2-3 decent wins are arguably better than Calzaghe's 2-3 decent wins...

This is ridiculous. You guys can't honestly believe their records are comparable?

Pavlik's THREE best wins are Taylor - middleweight champ. Miranda - failed "world" title challenger and ?? ... There isn't even a 3rd

Calzaghe's best wins... (in no particular order)

1. Hopkins - Middleweight "great," Lightheavy champ
2. Eubank - Top 5 best ever supermiddle
3. Kessler - WBC/WBA UNBEATEN champ
4. Lacy - IBF UNBEATEN champ
5. Reid - WBC champ
6. Brewer - IBF champ
7. Mitchell - WBA champ
8. Woodhall - WBC champ

Calzaghe's win over Omar Sheika is on a par with Pavlik's 2nd best ever win.

Come on boys, get real

Every one you mentioned Pavlik would most likely knockout. Not hanging on to shady split dicisions by the skin of his scrotum like Joe. Sorry but I still think he lost to Hopkins. The Reid and Hopkins should have been loses draws if not loses. Hopkins was a loss.

You clearly have never heard of Chris Eubank.

Only a top class fighter could possibily register wins over half those names. It would take an EXCEPTIONAL talent to have beaten all of them.

Without Pavlik having faced any, it's impossible to say. But wins against Hopkins, Eubank and Kessler - Pavlik would be odds against (KO is a ridiculous notion for Eubank.. and Hopkins). Lacy, Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, Woodhall and Sheika - Pavlik would have a strong chance, but it's highly UNLIKELY he would face all without suffering defeat. Fact.