So what is now your revised p4p top 10???

[Violent Demise]

Not really all that much has changed on my list. A few bum ups and additions

I added either Ivan Calderon or Chris John at #10 can not really decide

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Manny Pacquiao. ( #1 and #2 can go either way)
3. Israel Vazquez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Kelly Pavlik
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Ricky Hatton
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Ivan Calderon/Chris John

I would get rid of Chris John.

My thoughts exactly

[narsman]

My thoughts exactly

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

[SE7EN]

CJ is fake.

[CutMeMick]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

[HattonTheHammer]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this?

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

[hitmanhatton]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this?

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

in micks defence i think the best way to rate a fighter is by look at their ahcivements but also thier skill and technical ability and it would be fair to say the likes of miijares and calderon are more techniclly skilled than hatton

[CFH]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this?

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

I was thinking of putting him in the #10 spot on my list, but out of the 45 fights he has 2 or 3 wins that are truly impressive. He was badly outclassed against PBF as well. I like Hatton, but until he beats someone of note he is off my list.

[GAME]

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment but there could be some interesting developments if as he says his next fight is his last

Pav looks on the up, Cotto is too and maybe Juanma may become a superstar in years to come. Oscar may have a final assult on the p4p ratings too if Hatton changes his mind and fights him .

[Put Em' Up]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

Nonito Doniare was actually a thought over Chris John but with the fact he has had so many less fights then these other guys I left him out all together. I do think he is as talented as most on the list though.

[donnydarkoIRL]

My thoughts exactly

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

So you're a new wmeber that knows VD has a history of disagreeing with PSL...

So I assume your either a returnee having left for a while or a banned meber returning in disguise??

[CutMeMick]

My thoughts exactly

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

So you're a new wmeber that knows VD has a history of disagreeing with PSL...

So I assume your either a returnee having left for a while or a banned meber returning in disguise??

I'm gonna go with this is an alternate account...

[donnydarkoIRL]

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

So you're a new wmeber that knows VD has a history of disagreeing with PSL...

So I assume your either a returnee having left for a while or a banned meber returning in disguise??

I'm gonna go with this is an alternate account...

Sounds like a good call Mick.

Man! Check out my spelling when I type fast

[narsman]

My thoughts exactly

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

So you're a new wmeber that knows VD has a history of disagreeing with PSL...

So I assume your either a returnee having left for a while or a banned meber returning in disguise??

I've been a "reader" since 2006. Not a returnee, not a banned member in disguise and not an alt account.

I just think it's funny to read VD vs PSL. You can't tell who's the 14 yr old.

[:::PSL:::]

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

So you're a new wmeber that knows VD has a history of disagreeing with PSL...

So I assume your either a returnee having left for a while or a banned meber returning in disguise??

I've been a "reader" since 2006. Not a returnee, not a banned member in disguise and not an alt account.

I just think it's funny to read VD vs PSL. You can't tell who's the 14 yr old.

Do I know you? Am I gonna have to choke a lil' b1tch today?

Youngblood is 14 and he's a good poster. I don't think he'd appreciate your tone.

Plus, It's been a while since VD and I had some major disagreement.

Seriously bro, who the fukk are you? PM me.

[narsman]

Just like you, I'm a pac fan but definitely NOT a pacnut! And excuse me if I sound defensive because nowadays, the term "pacnut" is just... ahhhh, you know what I mean. I'm not saying that you are one, btw.

Nope, you don't know me. I'm just a long time reader. All I know is that you and VD get along like matches and gunpowder. It's good for this site, I believe, otherwise it would've been like watching John Ruiz fight.