So what is now your revised p4p top 10???

[:::PSL:::]

Not really all that much has changed on my list. A few bum ups and additions

I added either Ivan Calderon or Chris John at #10 can not really decide

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Manny Pacquiao. ( #1 and #2 can go either way)
3. Israel Vazquez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Kelly Pavlik
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Ricky Hatton
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Ivan Calderon/Chris John

I would get rid of Chris John.

[Put Em' Up]

Not really all that much has changed on my list. A few bum ups and additions

I added either Ivan Calderon or Chris John at #10 can not really decide

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Manny Pacquiao. ( #1 and #2 can go either way)
3. Israel Vazquez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Kelly Pavlik
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Ricky Hatton
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Ivan Calderon/Chris John

I would get rid of Chris John.

I think if I was choosing that is who would go. I actually think that Calderon has deserved to be on the pound for pouind list for quite sometime but the scene has stayed the same for so long and the order seemed to be the only thing that changed it would have been unfair to take anyone else off.

[Violent Demise]

Not really all that much has changed on my list. A few bum ups and additions

I added either Ivan Calderon or Chris John at #10 can not really decide

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Manny Pacquiao. ( #1 and #2 can go either way)
3. Israel Vazquez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Kelly Pavlik
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Ricky Hatton
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Ivan Calderon/Chris John

I would get rid of Chris John.

My thoughts exactly

[narsman]

My thoughts exactly

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

[SE7EN]

CJ is fake.

[CutMeMick]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

[donnydarkoIRL]

My thoughts exactly

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

So you're a new wmeber that knows VD has a history of disagreeing with PSL...

So I assume your either a returnee having left for a while or a banned meber returning in disguise??

[CutMeMick]

My thoughts exactly

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

So you're a new wmeber that knows VD has a history of disagreeing with PSL...

So I assume your either a returnee having left for a while or a banned meber returning in disguise??

I'm gonna go with this is an alternate account...

[donnydarkoIRL]

Whaaat? Did I read this right? You're agreeing with PSL? :-)

So you're a new wmeber that knows VD has a history of disagreeing with PSL...

So I assume your either a returnee having left for a while or a banned meber returning in disguise??

I'm gonna go with this is an alternate account...

Sounds like a good call Mick.

Man! Check out my spelling when I type fast

[hitmanhatton]

To me this is the real one right now :

1- Manny Pacquiao
2- Miguel Cotto
3- Kelly Pavlik
4- Joe Calzague
5- Israel Vasquez
6- Rafael Marquez
7- Winky Wright
8- Ivan Calderon
9- JMM
10- Ricky Hatton

If Pacquiao win his next fight against Diaz , he could still in the first place
If Cotto win his next fight against Margaro , he could still in the second place and both positions depend of their performance in the fight......

Thats a good list Macho imo

the only thing id change is maybe to swap winky wit JMM simply due to his inactivity of late , a win against a big name opponent in the near future could see him back in the mix

[HattonTheHammer]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this?

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

[hitmanhatton]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this?

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

in micks defence i think the best way to rate a fighter is by look at their ahcivements but also thier skill and technical ability and it would be fair to say the likes of miijares and calderon are more techniclly skilled than hatton

[Put Em' Up]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

Nonito Doniare was actually a thought over Chris John but with the fact he has had so many less fights then these other guys I left him out all together. I do think he is as talented as most on the list though.

[The Fightfan]

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. JMM
4. Pavlik
5. Cotto
6. Vazquez
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. B-Hop
9. Rafa
10. Mijares
Sorry I had to give Wlad a nod

[CFH]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this?

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

I was thinking of putting him in the #10 spot on my list, but out of the 45 fights he has 2 or 3 wins that are truly impressive. He was badly outclassed against PBF as well. I like Hatton, but until he beats someone of note he is off my list.